Archived [18/10/06] : Battrick

[Scaly piscine]

Well it's just a theory at the moment, if I look at Packer's catches:

a dive to the left with hand outstretched sees a superb catch from Packer in the slips.

Pitched up and swatted out towards the legside boundary, a great catch on the ropes denies him 6.

smacked the ball straight into the groin of Packer who fell over, miraculously with the ball still caught in his scrotal area! Out!


I think that's the third 'scrotal area' catch Packer has had already, don't think any of the others have taken any. Also I haven't ever noticed a 'dropped catch' commentary, so there must be some checks going on inside the mechanics of the game and if the catch 'fails' you get something like this:

Fabulous catch on the boundary…but the umpire's signalled six!! Noble put his foot over the boundary to take the catch!

Which if they had better 'luck' or better fielding might have been:

Pitched up and swatted out towards the legside boundary, a great catch on the ropes denies him 6.


I would also guess that a higher keeping value would take more strangled down the legside dismissals, as I say I've not seen any 'drop' commentaries, so they must purely generate more catches from somewhere - along with less byes, but there aren't many of those to begin with.

 

[Adamc]

Yeah, never seen dropped catches in the commentary either. Though I don't think they would serve any purpose; from what I gather, the outcome is generated (0,1,2,3,4,6,W etc.) then a random bit of commentary matching the outcome is provided.

I haven't used any fielding training so far, but I think I will soon as they seem to develop secondary skills at a very rapid rate. At the moment my squad is strong in primaries but relatively weak in secondaries, which I think will stuff me up in the FC matches.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Yeah, never seen dropped catches in the commentary either. Though I don't think they would serve any purpose; from what I gather, the outcome is generated (0,1,2,3,4,6,W etc.) then a random bit of commentary matching the outcome is provided.

I haven't used any fielding training so far, but I think I will soon as they seem to develop secondary skills at a very rapid rate. At the moment my squad is strong in primaries but relatively weak in secondaries, which I think will stuff me up in the FC matches.

Yea, I have 5 Psychologists... total cost 7.5k a week, 10 coaches... total cost 25k a week. I get more secondary skill pops than primary skill pops.

 

[Adamc]

Yea, I have 5 Psychologists... total cost 7.5k a week, 10 coaches... total cost 25k a week. I get more secondary skill pops than primary skill pops.

Same, just that I've been buying players with high primaries and low secondaries, so the secondaries haven't caught up yet. 1 fielding coach + 1 batting coach and 5 psychologists supposedly results in a conc pop every 3 weeks and cons every 4 weeks, which is a fair bit better than what I get on 2 batting coaches. Fielding pops as well, obviously.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Just got this guy for 31k...


Simon Weaver (318844)
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable form, Healthy
A defensive player with proficient leadership skills and abysmal experience.

Plays For: Scaly Piscine CC
Nationality: South Africa
Age: 19 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 2,288
Wages: £548 p/w

Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: competent Concentration: woeful
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: feeble
Fielding: feeble


Shame he's defensive (I'm experimenting setting defensive/cautious batsmen as very aggressive to see if it cancels out their natural style) and a Saffie, but can't have everything.

 

[Adamc]

Shame he's defensive (I'm experimenting setting defensive/cautious batsmen as very aggressive to see if it cancels out their natural style) and a Saffie, but can't have everything.

Match orders occasionally seem to have some effect, but it appears as though SR is heavily affected by the player's batting level as well as temperament. My usual top 3 are all cautious players but have quite different SRs:

	[B]Level	       Usual Match Order     Avg        SR[/B]
Cuss	quality 	attacking	     148	104
Bridge	respectable	v. attacking	      62	79
Berry	strong	        attacking	     102	87

My no. 4 is a destructive batsman:

Gillespie     proficient    v. attacking      51	106

Not really much information to go on, but it does seem to suggest the batting level is as important or more important than the match orders and temperament in determining the SR. I've never played anyone on defensive (other than the tail) so I'm not sure how much of an effect that would have.

 

[brenoevo]

And the losing streak moves onto 5. College Dropouts 9/253 50 overs losing to Trike-o United 4/255 42 overs. Was everyone elses teams as bad as mine when they first started i only have 2 competent bowlers, 1 proficient and 1 competent batsmen, evryone else is mediocre. Do u think it would be a good idea to buy better players?

 

[GotSpin]

I dont even have a proficent player...

 

[Adamc]

And the losing streak moves onto 5. College Dropouts 9/253 50 overs losing to Trike-o United 4/255 42 overs. Was everyone elses teams as bad as mine when they first started i only have 2 competent bowlers, 1 proficient and 1 competent batsmen, evryone else is mediocre. Do u think it would be a good idea to buy better players?

Actually, that's pretty decent for a starting squad. Though my starting squad was a little better admittedly.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Actually, that's pretty decent for a starting squad. Though my starting squad was a little better admittedly.

Yea same here, I still have some feeble players, albeit they have good all round skills in my team.

 

[andyc]

And the losing streak moves onto 5. College Dropouts 9/253 50 overs losing to Trike-o United 4/255 42 overs. Was everyone elses teams as bad as mine when they first started i only have 2 competent bowlers, 1 proficient and 1 competent batsmen, evryone else is mediocre. Do u think it would be a good idea to buy better players?

That's an awesome starting team!
I had no competent players at all, I just got my first one through training

 

[Adamc]

Top of the table clash against Banagher Knight, the current #1, and one of the top 5 or 6 teams in WI IMO. Will be very tough - they've got at least 3 proficient bowlers, including 2 who are at least strong and probably superb. All of them have very good economy rates, so it'll be interesting to see how my batsmen fare.

I'm backing away from my usual policy of having my top 8 all on aggressive/v aggressive after being bowled out in my last match (albeit in 49.5 overs). Put in a couple of anchors down the order, though my top 5 will still be aggressive/v aggressive.

Their batting looks pretty good in terms of averages, but I don't think there is too much there for me to worry about (hopefully...). The onus is very much on my batsmen to put in a good performance. Hopefully we'll bat first as both of my league losses last season were when I was chasing (18 and 3 runs respectively).

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Match orders occasionally seem to have some effect, but it appears as though SR is heavily affected by the player's batting level as well as temperament. My usual top 3 are all cautious players but have quite different SRs:

	[B]Level	       Usual Match Order     Avg        SR[/B]
Cuss	quality 	attacking	     148	104
Bridge	respectable	v. attacking	      62	79
Berry	strong	        attacking	     102	87

My no. 4 is a destructive batsman:

Gillespie     proficient    v. attacking      51	106

Not really much information to go on, but it does seem to suggest the batting level is as important or more important than the match orders and temperament in determining the SR. I've never played anyone on defensive (other than the tail) so I'm not sure how much of an effect that would have.

Well, here's some more info...

	Level		Normal mode
Cable	competent	cautious	47	84
Angell	mediocre	defensive	32	68
Lester	respectable	defensive	125	90 (competent stamina)
Lewis	respectable	defensive	48	72 (this season: 117-95)
Marsden	mediocre	attacking	36	111

All play on normal mode, except Marsden, who is very attacking.

 

[Hoggy31]

Won my match fairly easily today
Made 313/4 batting first - Haughton 98(79), Street 81(97), Colley 56*(46)

They made 275/6 in reply - Townshend 3/43, Binns 3/66

Carrying a few bowlers at the moment, team will probably be reshuffled as a result

 

[Adamc]

Well, here's some more info...

	Level		Normal mode
Cable	competent	cautious	47	84
Angell	mediocre	defensive	32	68
Lester	respectable	defensive	125	90 (competent stamina)
Lewis	respectable	defensive	48	72 (this season: 117-95)
Marsden	mediocre	attacking	36	111

All play on normal mode, except Marsden, who is very attacking.

Interesting... those figures support my theory somewhat, with the mediocre/defensive player's SR 68 and the respectable/defensive player's SR 90. Lewis and Marsden stuff up my theory though.

Received 20k compensation for the abandoned cup match, pretty decent considering I only would've made 10k otherwise.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Interesting... those figures support my theory somewhat, with the mediocre/defensive player's SR 68 and the respectable/defensive player's SR 90. Lewis and Marsden stuff up my theory though.

Received 20k compensation for the abandoned cup match, pretty decent considering I only would've made 10k otherwise.

Marsden bats at six, and almost never comes in unless we slog, and as I say he's been told to attack. Lewis I can agree with - but if you look at this season's stats his strike rate is 95.

 

[Adamc]

Marsden bats at six, and almost never comes in unless we slog, and as I say he's been told to attack. Lewis I can agree with - but if you look at this season's stats his strike rate is 95.

Fair enough. BT seems to have implemented a very obvious 'slog in the last ten overs' order. Often my batsmen stagnate around overs 35-40 then shift three or four gears as soon as the 41st over starts. Similarly, when my opening bowler returns in the 41st over he almost invariably picks up two or three wickets straightaway - partly because he's my best bowler, but partly because the batsmen have suddenly decided to slog.

Won the toss and will bat first.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Fair enough. BT seems to have implemented a very obvious 'slog in the last ten overs' order. Often my batsmen stagnate around overs 35-40 then shift three or four gears as soon as the 41st over starts. Similarly, when my opening bowler returns in the 41st over he almost invariably picks up two or three wickets straightaway - partly because he's my best bowler, but partly because the batsmen have suddenly decided to slog.

Won the toss and will bat first.

At least it's better than VC4's "four-maidens-at-death" order.

Edit: Maiden over first up. Lovely bowling Dwight.

 

[Adamc]

Bah. I was prepared for an early wicket, but I wish it wasn't a runout! 50 laps for Bridge at the next training session.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Looks like a pretty decent start, 77-1 after 14 with your gun batsman well set. My next opponent (division 2 in England) just won their first league game... their seam bowling and opening batting popped to competent so I think they're probably favourites now, my opening batting is competent but I have slightly weaker middle order and seam bowling - they did have at least one spin bowler tho, they don't usually do much on my green pitch (unless they're high level).