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Archived [18/10/06] : Battrick

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Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

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PY said:
Difference is, I've seen Neil play and I'm not calling him anything which he doesn't freely admit to himself. :)
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Yea I know.

I'd love to know how many YPs there've been so far, very few sellable ones on the market.
 
Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

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Yep, the ITSs are applied before you pull the player. Doesn't matter tho, even with maximum investment it'll be 4 weeks before anyone has accumulated the maximum number of ITSs you can apply on one youth pull (that's with a 17yo from a decent academy). So basically most people are just going to end up pulling a player each week until they've built up enough ITSs to use up on a youth pull, use them up and start again.

Of course it's probably a good idea towards the end of this season to build up to 100 ITS and pull 3 17yos at the very start of next season (using up the reserve of 100 ITS) and get more training in if you pull a good 'un.
 
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Cloete

Cloete

International Captain
Adamc said:
You could be right, but from that screenshot it shows the bowling rising at pretty much the same rate as fielding, so assuming you can get competent primaries just from ITS then there will be remarkable players who would walk into any U19 team at the moment. I'm hoping it'll be a bit more complex than that as I don't really want to see teams suddenly dominating because they pulled a remarkable batsman or something.

It looks as though we'll still be able to get YP's every week, but only add ITS every few weeks. This will probably mean the market will become flooded with players who have a decent primary but worthless stamina and secondaries, which will be pretty annoying.
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Adam I think we're interpreting this differently.

The way I see it is that the player starts with all his stats on worthless then with your 48 (example) training sessions you add them onto his stats to make him pop before you pull him. So if you make him a competent batsman + good secondaries that's what you pull him out as. All of the attributes are given to him evenly (e.g 10 ITS would recent in the same number of pops in all of the skills). So if you want a WK/Batsman/Bowler you simply give your YP the right skills.

I thought the natural skill was simply just like talent, but it actually tells you what it is.

Anyway we'll see what happens!

Ahh don't worry you're right:

Battrick said:
As he joins your squad, you will see the benefits of the intensive training sessions as well as his initial natural talent, making up his overall skills.
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This is interesting though:

Battrick said:
The total sessions that you can use on one player is limited by the condition of the Youth Academy building and the age of the player, as shown in the table below. You can allocate these sessions in any way that you want, but you cannot assign any more than 12 sessions to one skill.
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marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Scaly piscine said:
Yep, the ITSs are applied before you pull the player. Doesn't matter tho, even with maximum investment it'll be 4 weeks before anyone has accumulated the maximum number of ITSs you can apply on one youth pull (that's with a 17yo from a decent academy). So basically most people are just going to end up pulling a player each week until they've built up enough ITSs to use up on a youth pull, use them up and start again.
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Right, so where does the academy condition fit in then?

As it turns out I must've got lucky with that pick, because he's a 17 year old competent bat, which actually makes him my second best batsman - pity he's worthless in everything else.

So I just train him as last season then? What sessions would people recommend?

One of my other good YP from a few weeks back is currently using 1 bat, 1 bowl and a field - he's now up to:

Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: mediocre Concentration: respectable
Bowling: mediocre Consistency: proficient
Fielding: mediocre

Is that enough for him at 18?

My 3rd good one is a proficient bowler, but he's now 19 so less worthy of training?
 
PY

PY

International Coach
Hmm, I'm no expert but 18 isn't old enough to stop training that dude I wouldn't have thought.

I'd probably (in ideal world) train this new guy (same way as before I think) with batting, fitness and fielding if you can fit them in? If only two sessions, then I'd go fitness and fielding? Others know more and I can only say from my experience. :)
 
PY

PY

International Coach
Ah right, oops. :D

You mean does he have enough training things? Or is he going to be good enough to make the top grade?
 
PY

PY

International Coach
I have someone who's 19 who has very similar figures to that guy and he does fine for me as 5th bowler and he's done pretty good with the bat too so I can't complain.

Hopefully make him competent/competent (bat/bowl) before I forget about him training-wise.
 
PY

PY

International Coach
Whoa, big opening price on Kenna there Ash! No-one's jumped in yet. :(

Has there just been a load of inactives kicked? There's an in-ordinate amount of crap on the Transfer List at the moment, even more than usual! People putting players on there who's best is abysmal and they're 27. :wacko:
 
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Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

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marc71178 said:
Right, so where does the academy condition fit in then?

As it turns out I must've got lucky with that pick, because he's a 17 year old competent bat, which actually makes him my second best batsman - pity he's worthless in everything else.

So I just train him as last season then? What sessions would people recommend?

One of my other good YP from a few weeks back is currently using 1 bat, 1 bowl and a field - he's now up to:

Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: mediocre Concentration: respectable
Bowling: mediocre Consistency: proficient
Fielding: mediocre

Is that enough for him at 18?

My 3rd good one is a proficient bowler, but he's now 19 so less worthy of training?
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The level of the academy dictates to some degree how good your youth pulls are. It also determines the maximum number of ITSs you can apply to a youth pull.

I would certainly train a 19yo proficient bowler, because they will likely make your team for many seasons to come. It will only take an extra 2 weeks over a 17yo to get the bowling to pop and since it takes 11-12 weeks for a 17yo the difference is fairly small in percentage terms. Also at that sort of age a strong bowler would be worth around 200k more than a proficient bowler - so you're getting very good value for one coach at 40k a season.

I would also give that 18yo stamina training, his individual fitness level will suffer if he bats and bowls regularly, they'll also suffer a little bit in matches when bowling or batting a long time (when he hits 70-80 balls with the bat you'll probably notice them slow down). The extra stamina will remedy this to an extent and it'll increase the rate at which their individual fitness level recovers.
 
mikeW

mikeW

International Vice-Captain
This is my YP

Seamus Andrew - 17 yo, BT Rating=253
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable form, fresh
(respectable batting form, respectable bowling form)
A defensive player with proficient leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: worthless Wicket Keeping: woeful
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: worthless Consistency: abysmal
Fielding: worthless
 
Hoggy31

Hoggy31

International Captain
I got this - Stamina: worthless Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: mediocre Concentration: worthless
Bowling: feeble Consistency: worthless
Fielding: abysmal
 
Robertinho

Robertinho

Cricketer Of The Year
I got this

Stamina: worthless Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: mediocre Consistency: worthless
Fielding: abysmal
 
Robertinho

Robertinho

Cricketer Of The Year
How close are these guys to popping?

Code: 
Plays For:	Robertinho Select XI
Nationality:	Australia
Age: 	20 Years Old
Battrick Rating:	8,808
Wages:	£1,759 p/w
 
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	worthless 	Concentration: 	abysmal
Bowling: 	proficient 	Consistency: 	respectable
Fielding: 	feeble
Code: 
Plays For:	Robertinho Select XI
Nationality:	Australia
Age: 	18 Years Old
Battrick Rating:	4,318
Wages:	£334 p/w
 
Stamina: 	competent 	Wicket Keeping: 	worthless
Batting: 	mediocre 	Concentration: 	feeble
Bowling: 	woeful 	Consistency: 	feeble
Fielding: 	feeble
Code: 
Plays For:	Robertinho Select XI
Nationality:	West Indies
Age: 	18 Years Old
Battrick Rating:	5,813
Wages:	£1,029 p/w
 
Stamina: 	mediocre 	Wicket Keeping: 	feeble
Batting: 	respectable 	Concentration: 	woeful
Bowling: 	abysmal 	Consistency: 	woeful
Fielding: 	feeble
?
 
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