"Anyone but Little England"

[Langeveldt]

Have you ever been abroad Richard?

 

[Richard]

How can it even be close to anti-white racism if he is rooting for a less multicultured, more 'white' country? This doesn't make any sense.

I've already mentioned this - it's about outside-perception. Britain isn't really perceived, in my experience, as a racially tolerant place - people are still quick to look back rather than at the present.
Doing such causes "I-hate-Britain" mindedness, which can and often will lead to simple "I-hate-Western-civilisation" mindedness.

 

[Richard]

Have you ever been abroad Richard?

Have you ever watched the news?

(And I'm not just talking about news produced and broadcast in Britain)

 

[social]

Have you ever been abroad Richard?

He thought about going to Lancashire once ............ but once only.

 

[Richard]

Absolute rubbish....and a very naive, and tabloid view of the world I'd say.

Not a comment on The World, not at all.
I have no huge perception of faraway lands, none at all, and I don't pretend to.

 

[Langeveldt]

Have you ever watched the news?

(And I'm not just talking about news produced and broadcast in Britain)

Haven't answered my question.. (and yes I watch it every night)

So your every single perception of the outside world comes through the media? Not criticizing but its just an interesting thought..

 

[Richard]

You can learn only so much by spending a week or so overseas.
Without media there is no perception at all for the overwhelming majority.
As I say, it's not that dangerous if you make sure you don't use similar sources which may (or may not) have similar biases.

 

[social]

You can learn only so much by spending a week or so overseas.
Without media there is no perception at all for the overwhelming majority.
As I say, it's not that dangerous if you make sure you don't use similar sources which may (or may not) have similar biases.

Richard,

I dont disagree with everything you have to say on this topic BUT having too much faith in the media is a dangerous thing.

 

[Dasa]

Not a comment on The World, not at all.
I have no huge perception of faraway lands, none at all, and I don't pretend to.

Well of course he is.
Anti-white racism is perfectly acceptible, as is anti-male ***ism, heterophobia, you-name-it.
According to most people, things like that are a legitimate redress for past injustices.
All a load of bullshiiyt in my estimation - you can never undo past injustices - but for most people it's perfectly acceptible.

Just take a look at what you've said, and tell me why it isn't a naive and media-driven view of the world. Really, the views you've expressed are only seen in tabloid journalism. Anti-white racism acceptable when racism against non-'whites' is still entrenched in the system and in the minds of many? Anti-male ***ism when females are still striving for equal treatment? Heterophobia when homophobia is almost the officially sanctioned and homosexuals are still second class citizens?

The things you point out aren't, as you seem to think, some sort of attempt to "redress past injustices" - they simply do not exist in the same way as what I've outlined, and the only way I can see that you would think that way is if you eat up whatever the media offers you without ever questioning their validity or looking deeper into the issues.

 

[C_C]

Well I find you have misled yourself, then.

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Maybe it would be more accurate to say most multicultural of Western nations - I don't really have a good grasp of how multicultural places like India and China are.
Without immigrants there is no multiculturalism. Culture doesn't just get adopted for no reason, it gets imported.
Cuisines, meanwhile, are one of the most prominent examples of culture.

Britain is not the most multicultural of western nations. Of the western nations i've visited,I would rank Canada ahead as well as Spain.
And immigration is not necessary for multiculturalism - atleast not continuous immigration.
You forget that immigration to the west is a relatively new phenomenon, that isnt even 100 years old in terms of bulk immigration. Whereas immigration into India or China may not be very frequent in the last 100-150 years but those two nations were *THE* destinations for immigration for the last 2000+ years. You gotta keep that in perspective. There is lot more to culture than just food. There is literature, art, music, dance, dressing, etc. etc.
If you go to India or China, you'd see several different cultural spheres co-existing, instead of having an 'overlord' culture that dominates and permeates all.
In the west there is very little cultural diversity. Simply because of the 'overlord culture', be it English, Aussie, Canadian, French or what not. There is very little linguistic, artistic,musical,etc. diversity. Instead what you have is 'different flavourings' of ice cream. You wouldnt notice the cultural difference between Manchester or London...or Ottawa and Vancouver. But even a blind man would notice the vast cultural difference between Chennai and Kolkata or Kunming and Beijing.

 

[superkingdave]

Not really wanting to get into this argument but Spain???!?!?

 

[C_C]

Not really wanting to get into this argument but Spain???!?!?

Well i saw more cultural diversity in spain than i saw in the UK.
Catalan, Andalusian, Basque, Gallic cultures all co-existing and being on relatively equal footing, instead of being the 'same ol same ol' like Britain/US/Canada are.
There is artistic, architectural and culinary diversity between Andalusia and Basque lands for example. There is absolutely no artistic/culinary/architectural diversity between London,Glasgow and Manchester....culturally speaking, you've seen one city = you've seen 80% of British culture.

 

[silentstriker]

Doing such causes "I-hate-Britain" mindedness, which can and often will lead to simple "I-hate-Western-civilisation" mindedness.

1) That statement is more true towards the US than Britain these days

and

2) I-hate-western-civilisation is still different from I-hate-white-people

I've already mentioned this - it's about outside-perception. Britain isn't really perceived, in my experience, as a racially tolerant place - people are still quick to look back rather than at the present.

So its, "I hate the Brits because I percieve them as intolerent". If that was "I hate white people because I percieve them as intolerant", then you'd have something. But rooting for Australia negates this.

Basically you are arguing that he [borders] on hating the symbol of white intolerence, but roots for one set of white people over another?

 

[Neil Pickup]

This is the same Spain where anyone black gets ape noises during a football game, yes?

 

[C_C]

This is the same Spain where anyone black gets ape noises during a football game, yes?

Yes. And the point being ? We are also talking of the same Britain where skinheads and Aryan nation membership is one of the highest in the world per capita......

 

[steds]

You wouldnt notice the cultural difference between Manchester or London

I'm reckoning I could, on account of everything in the South being *****.



EDIT: And their stupid voices.

 

[steds]

Yes. And the point being ? We are also talking of the same Britain where skinheads and Aryan nation membership is one of the highest in the world per capita......

And having has shaved head has anything to do with anything how?

 

[silentstriker]

And having has shaved head has anything to do with anything how?

Um, when he says 'skinheads', he doesn't mean Michael Jordan. He means white supremacists.

 

[chris.hinton]

The Comments are simply Racist, if it was an Englishman having a go at Sri Lankan Cricket and People in General then there would be Uproar

 

[social]

Well i saw more cultural diversity in spain than i saw in the UK.
Catalan, Andalusian, Basque, Gallic cultures all co-existing and being on relatively equal footing, instead of being the 'same ol same ol' like Britain/US/Canada are.
There is artistic, architectural and culinary diversity between Andalusia and Basque lands for example. There is absolutely no artistic/culinary/architectural diversity between London,Glasgow and Manchester....culturally speaking, you've seen one city = you've seen 80% of British culture.

And youve seen one Basque bombing a Catalunian and youve seen them all