"Anyone but Little England"

[Langeveldt]

Not sure whether Anti White or Anti Colour racism is more prevalant myself.. I'd say it was about the same, Im thinking a lot of Latin America and Central Africa that I wouldn't be very comfortable in visiting as a white person! And there is obviously bucketloads of prejudice going the other way.. I'd say mankind is naturally suspicious of other cultures until educated otherwise..

As for the most racially harmonious nation? Well it isn't South Africa, where people seem now to be only too happy to live totally seperated lives. Western Europe, including Britain has a big problem with illegal immigration, which tarnishes some peoples perceptions of all foreigners in general.. The USA still has a lot of institutionalised racism apparently.. I think you'd have to go for a progressive nation like the United Arab Emirates or Malaysia, they seem to be the most forward thinking, and both predominantly Muslim (?) Canada seems to be fairly trouble free as well.. But I don't know how multicultural it is..

Still a rubbish article though

 

[Jono]

Not sure whether Anti White or Anti Colour racism is more prevalant myself.. I'd say it was about the same, Im thinking a lot of Latin America and Central Africa that I wouldn't be very comfortable in visiting as a white person! And there is obviously bucketloads of prejudice going the other way.. I'd say mankind is naturally suspicious of other cultures until educated otherwise..

As for the most racially harmonious nation? Well it isn't South Africa, where people seem now to be only too happy to live totally seperated lives. Western Europe, including Britain has a big problem with illegal immigration, which tarnishes some peoples perceptions of all foreigners in general.. The USA still has a lot of institutionalised racism apparently.. I think you'd have to go for a progressive nation like the United Arab Emirates or Malaysia, they seem to be the most forward thinking, and both predominantly Muslim (?) Canada seems to be fairly trouble free as well.. But I don't know how multicultural it is..

Still a rubbish article though

Malaysia does have its form of discrimination, where the Chinese Malays are almost insulted (and yes, I am generalising here from my experiences) if you call them "Malaysian". Often I've heard the reply "No, I'm Chinese Malay". The Indian Malays are often looked down upon by some.

I've only heard good things from the UAE though. My personal experiences from Singapore when I lived there for 3 years (2000-2002) was that the huge amount of ex-pats coming to work there, which has occured for so many years due to smart government policies by the Singaporean gov't, has pretty much resulted in 'whites' or 'westerners' being accepted very well. I of course do not look a westerner with my Indian origin, but I went to an Australian International School there and there was pretty much no racism at all, due to the fact that international schools always have a wide range of backgrounds and cultures, and everyone gets used to it. Its a lot different from a predominatly white/predominatly *insert random Asian race here* school or community suddenly having an Asian/white student or person come in.

 

[Langeveldt]

In the UAE lots of people are too filthy rich to be worried about what colour your skin is.. And the poorer pakistani and Indian immigrants are earning far more money than they would at home, as usual money keeping everyone happy.. And there is nobody to do their jobs anyway, so everyone wins..

Its when things go pear shaped (I cant get a job/house, blame such and such on Ravi Bloggs) that you start getting the race cards drawn, and the tensions associated..

 

[Jono]

Because it encourages the dislike of Britain, which is one of the most prominent, most obvious "white" countries (even though it is also easily the most multicultural country in The World, and the most comfortable with it's multiculturalism), which is what leads many of the unwary to simple "I-hate-all-those-Westerners" sentiments.

That is rubbish. Absolute rubbish. My fear of Britain and its racism is that its often not just the uneducated idiots who spray their racism around (I'm still amazed at how common the term '****' is used, its just weird coming from an Australian viewpoint) but there are plenty of people who I would normally consider friends through their similar interests and fun personalities, who suddenly will come out with wild racist calls. Immigration in Britain has ****ed plenty of people off hence resulting in racist views (and this may be a minority, but its not a small one), and living there I can't believe you wouldn't notice that.

 

[social]

I currently spend 50% of my time in the UAE and have done so for the past 18 months.

My family and I are moving there on a permanent basis at the beginning of April.

It is indeed a cultural melting pot with only approximately 30% of the population being nationals.

The vast majority of expats are Indians, Pakistanis or Phillipinos who are employed, in the main, in more menial positions and, in many instances, work in appalling and dangerous conditions. For example, workers in the construction industry are subjected to work practices that were outlawed in Aus many years ago with the resultant death of an average of one worker per day. The gov't justifies this by referring to the pay these workers receive and the conditions that they tolerate at home.

Whilst it is, in my experience, by far the most progressive of Middle Eastern countries, it still has a substantial way to go to even approach the tolerance/acceptance levels of somewhere like Aus.

 

[silentstriker]

The article, of course, is not promo-I-hate-white.
Nonetheless, it is dangerously close to being so.

How can it even be close to anti-white racism if he is rooting for a less multicultured, more 'white' country? This doesn't make any sense.

 

[Dasa]

Well of course he is.
Anti-white racism is perfectly acceptible, as is anti-male ***ism, heterophobia, you-name-it.
According to most people, things like that are a legitimate redress for past injustices.
All a load of bullshiiyt in my estimation - you can never undo past injustices - but for most people it's perfectly acceptible.

Absolute rubbish....and a very naive, and tabloid view of the world I'd say.

 

[Jono]

Off topic a little (well a lot but what ya gonna do) but Dasa are you at Melb Uni much in the arvos, and if so, are you free? Sometimes a few mates and I have some net sessions (probably Tuesdays) and if you're ever interested to have a bit of a muck around you'd be welcome.

 

[Dasa]

Off topic a little (well a lot but what ya gonna do) but Dasa are you at Melb Uni much in the arvos, and if so, are you free? Sometimes a few mates and I have some net sessions (probably Tuesdays) and if you're ever interested to have a bit of a muck around you'd be welcome.

That'd be good. I'm there quite often anyway, try to get as much cricket in as possible. On a related note, are you on msn?

 

[Jono]

Yep. My MSN is jonoaugustus@hotmail.com

 

[Sanz]

If that is your real name then I must say -That's some powerful name..

 

[Jono]

My full name is Jonathan C Augustus, Jono is just a nickname I received from young which has stuck.

There is an under 19 West Indies cricket player named Jonathan C Augustus. I saw him in International Cricket Captain Hopefully he becomes a champion.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

There is an under 19 West Indies cricket player named Jonathan C Augustus. I saw him in International Cricket Captain Hopefully he becomes a champion.

Hasn't played a meaningful match since 2004 though. Talented and just 20 years old though.

 

[SJS]

I would like to believe that Dileep Premachandran's article is a bit tongue-in-cheek, a bit exaggerated by intention in a humorous kind of way. If not, I am afraid, it is far too strong and shows a speaks a bit more of the writer's complexes than anything else.

 

[marc71178]

Hasn't played a meaningful match since 2004 though. Talented and just 20 years old though.

The next CW icon?

 

[Richard]

I've seen ample instances of the exact opposite actually. In Britain, Canada, US and France.

Well I find you have misled yourself, then.

Sorry but britain is nowhere close to being the most multicultural country in the world.
If i were to pick two or three nations about multiculturalism, it would be China, India and maybe Brazil.
Simply having a bucketload of immigrants and restaurants serving 200 different cuisines doesnt multicultural a country make.
I've personally never seen anything remotely approaching India in terms of multiculturalism and i am not saying that coz i am from India - simply because the diversity is incredible and equal, unlike in the west where there is a 'dominant culture'.

Maybe it would be more accurate to say most multicultural of Western nations - I don't really have a good grasp of how multicultural places like India and China are.
Without immigrants there is no multiculturalism. Culture doesn't just get adopted for no reason, it gets imported.
Cuisines, meanwhile, are one of the most prominent examples of culture.

And no, i dont see how it borders on racism- Britain isnt the only white nation and neither is it representative of 'white nations' in the world.
The author showed his dislike of Britain due to typical British stuffyness in the media circles and the senseless panderings many of the media personalities engage in.
British culture often irks people from Asia, simply because many Britons think that they are an extremely cultured society when in reality Britain isnt even the most culturally rich nation in europe by a longshot, nevermind far older cultural regions such as Asia or Africa.

I don't really give a damn whether Britain is the most culturally rich nation, I'm not even totally sure what you mean by that.
Britain is extremely reprisentative of "white nations" in The World, if you seriously think not I'd really rather like to hear these many countries which are so much more so.

 

[Richard]

Is that not contradicting yourself?

Not really, how?
Being "prominent white" is all about outside perception; being comfortable in multiculturalism is about reality.

 

[Richard]

oh please Richard, a rather naive view of britain I think

Not really, look anywhere in Europe there's far more inter-culture tension than anywhere else; same can be said for Australia.

 

[Richard]

As for the most racially harmonious nation? Well it isn't South Africa, where people seem now to be only too happy to live totally seperated lives.

South Africa where Afrikaaners are adament that black Govornment officials get away with corruption, and where idiots like Nconde Balfour are allowed to go around spouting the nonsense he came-out with in November 2002?

 

[Richard]

That is rubbish. Absolute rubbish. My fear of Britain and its racism is that its often not just the uneducated idiots who spray their racism around (I'm still amazed at how common the term '****' is used, its just weird coming from an Australian viewpoint) but there are plenty of people who I would normally consider friends through their similar interests and fun personalities, who suddenly will come out with wild racist calls. Immigration in Britain has ****ed plenty of people off hence resulting in racist views (and this may be a minority, but its not a small one), and living there I can't believe you wouldn't notice that.

Err, you'd be hard-pressed not to notice it.
Fact is, though, Britain has maintained a sympathetic view on migration (compared to other European countries) despite this yobbish stupidity, and has never stopped working the knuckles off clamping-down on it. Indeed, institutionalised-racism is more obvious than some would care to admit, but the simple fact of the matter is that it's still less acceptible than in many other places.