A.F.L Thread

[pasag]

92 pt loss. Oh well, at leasts its not the worst of the round

Fevola kicks 85% of our score. 29 out of our 34 points. When was the last game where there was a solitary scorer?

 

[sideshowtim]

I don't understand why Port are so horribly bad only 2 years after winning a premiership and dominating the entire season.

 

[benchmark00]

92 pt loss. Oh well, at leasts its not the worst of the round

Fevola kicks 85% of our score. 29 out of our 34 points. When was the last game where there was a solitary scorer?

Im not sure, but the record for a player kicking 100% of the teams goals is 5. Fev just missed out with 4.

 

[Robertinho]

This round should be renamed "Spineless Withering" round, f-king Carlton.

As soon as I put Judd as captain over Hodge, I get screwed over...

 

[cameeel]

CW Tipping Ladder Round 8

Alternative - 43
Cameeel - 41
Jack - 39
Benchmark - 38
Buddhmaster - 38
Jono - 38
Rob - 37
Burkey - 36
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Dark Hunter - 36
Faaip - 35
Linda - 35
Ash Chaulk - 34
Steds - 34
Oz_Fan - 33
Archie Mac - 25
Hoggy - 23

 

[Robertinho]

Wow, alternative is on 43! In the tipping comp I'm in (with actual money - $100+ for first place), 41 is the highest, and I'm equal 2nd with 39. Good effort.

 

[alternative]

oh thats nice..
the tipping comp i am in with for money is like we pay $2 for each round, and then there is 18 ppl in the comp..

so hopefully i will be making some money this time around..

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

The Richmond-Adelaide game was just awful. Richmond probably deserved the win, and the Crows played awful football, particularly in the third term, but the style of football Richmond played was just terrible. It's one thing to use flooding or keepings-off short kicking for a brief period of the game to stem the tide, but to get a couple of goals up midway through the second term and then hold on to the ball for the next 50 minutes of active play is terrible to watch.

Seems very likely that backwards passing won't result in a mark next season, especially after that.

 

[Jono]

It was ugly (I was at the ground though and didn't care because I was sitting in the Adelaide fan area, and the amount I copped at the start of the game was heaps, so when that siren went, boy did I unleash on them) but what I don't understand is why didn't Adelaide's forwards just stay in their own forward 50 though? All Adelaide had to do was man-up on Bowden and the problem would have been solved. Instead they insisted on flooding our forward line, and hence it allowed Richmond to chip it around for ages until they got an opening.

Neil Craig was just outcoached by Terry Wallace, and whilst I respect him immsensely, he was ridiculously stubborn not to play man-on-man football until the last 15 minutes of the game. Plus Adelaide turned the ball over a ridiculous amount. McLeod in the first quarter couldn't hit a target, Burton was run down holding the ball at least 3 or 4 times, and Ricciuto was absolutely owned by the young Andrew Raines. On top of that Richmond won the clearances, which was a massive aid to the cause.

Adelaide were shown up for not having a big forward as well. Whether Welsh can fill that hole is an interesting question.

 

[Buddhmaster]

Don't get Jono angry

 

[Great Birtannia]

This weeks odds with the TAB

Geelong 1.33
Richmond 3.00

When is the last time a team got pumped by 100 points and then went into the next game short priced favourite?

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Adelaide were shown up for not having a big forward as well. Whether Welsh can fill that hole is an interesting question.

Adelaide had big forwards. McGregor and Hentschel are certainly big, the problem is that McGregor is pretty crappy up forward in every sense other than taking marks, and Hentschel can't kick straight. If Hentschel learns to kick, Ricciuto stays there and Welsh or Perrie come back in decent touch, it'll be a pretty potent forward line. It certainly looked good last week when Burton, Ricciuto and Hentschel kicked like 12 between them. The problem this week was that the supply was terrible and Adelaide got hardly any of the ball anyway.

I think "playing man to man" is a good deal harder than people make out. Adelaide obviously tried to man up after about midway through the third term, but when the opposition has no desire whatsoever to go forward, and are happy to kick the ball backwards 40 metres to find a spare player, it's pretty hard to get the ball if they hit their targets. If you go one on one all over the ground, it just takes one player to get on a lead and they'll get the ball, and if you try and zone a bit to stop that from happening up the ground, players can get free back in defence.

 

[Jono]

McGregor was beaten by Patrick Bowden, nuff said about him being a forward. He's just big, not a big forward. Hentschel's good but you can't count on bombing it towards him when you are under pressure. He's a good crutch, but Perrie was dearly missed. He and Welsh absolutely murdered us last time Adelaide played us.

And its not hard to go man-to-man to prevent Richmond from chipping it around, you just have to, and this may be foreign to Adelaide (don't get me wrong because I love the Adelaide team, they have two of my favourite players in Burton and McLeod and I used to be a huge fan of Modra back in the day so I've always had a soft spot for them)... NOT FLOOD the opposition's forward line! Adelaide never had anyone, and I mean anyone, stay in their forward 50 the minute we had the ball. Adelaide's forward line would just move behind the ball. So tell me why Richmond should kick the ball towards the area of the ground where 22 opposition players are? By flooding our forward line that may have prevented Richo from kicking a bag (he was well held by Rutten in the first place unlike last year where Richo beat him), but Richmond didn't need Richo kicking a bag to win. Hell he played full back in the last quarter

There's this theory going around that Neil Craig didn't react until half-way through the last quarter because he wanted to test out his Adelaide boys and see if they were smart enough to react to what was going on and solve it themselves. I hope that's true, because otherwise one of the best tactical coaches going around today made a big boo-boo.

 

[Jono]

This weeks odds with the TAB

Geelong 1.33
Richmond 3.00

When is the last time a team got pumped by 100 points and then went into the next game short priced favourite?

The last time that team played Richmond

Richmond are always high odds. The only time they really got on a streak of being favourites was during their early run of wins in 2005, when they were favourites against Carlton, Collingwood, almost even with Melbourne.

Hell Essendon went in favourites against Richmond this year.

Understand your point though I think it'd be a bit more even had Richmond vs. Geelong be played at the MCG instead of Skilled Stadium. Though we gave Geelong a tough match last year at Skilled in round 22 losing by 1 point in Campbell's last match, I think a fired up Geelong who had a 'crisis meeting' will be very tough to beat on their home turf.

If they lose to Richmond at home Thompson better start packing his bags

 

[pasag]

Yep, its unacceptable to spend years rebuilding, languashing on the bottom of the ladder, finally get a very solid side and then throw it down the drain.

 

[pasag]

There's this theory going around that Neil Craig didn't react until half-way through the last quarter because he wanted to test out his Adelaide boys and see if they were smart enough to react to what was going on and solve it themselves. I hope that's true, because otherwise one of the best tactical coaches going around today made a big boo-boo.

I cant believe that. If he did do that, it would be borderline idiotic.

 

[Great Birtannia]

Understand your point though I think it'd be a bit more even had Richmond vs. Geelong be played at the MCG instead of Skilled Stadium. Though we gave Geelong a tough match last year at Skilled in round 22 losing by 1 point in Campbell's last match, I think a fired up Geelong who had a 'crisis meeting' will be very tough to beat on their home turf.

If they lose to Richmond at home Thompson better start packing his bags

We just about always beat Richmond. Gazza senior used to tear them to shreds and it has continued from there. Geelong have won the last 7 between the sides.

They should come out fired up this week but then again I thought the Saints game was a turning point in the season hence the Collingwood bet

The teams that have beaten us have moved the ball quickly, if Richmond play the same game they did against Adelaide I think we will win. I only saw the last quarter but when you play like that one or two skill errors will lose you the game and the Tiges, lead by Coughlan, gave away two or three shocking goals to Adelaide but they just couldn't consolidate them. The game plan requires a fair bit of luck *sorry*

 

[Great Birtannia]

Yep, its unacceptable to spend years rebuilding, languashing on the bottom of the ladder, finally get a very solid side and then throw it down the drain.

*Cough*

We have never spent time at the bottom, we are the epitomy of mid table mediocrity. Geelong haven't finished in the bottom 4 in my life time and that is part of the problem.

West Coast finished 14th and got Judd, St Kilda finished 16th and got Riewoldt, Kosi and Ball, Fremantle finished 16th and got Haselby and Pavlich etc etc. The common trait - MATCHWINNERS. Geelong don't have one, never finished low enough to draft them. When the chips are done and the team is going through the motions we don't have a Judd to take the match by the scruff of the neck and drag the entire team up with him.

 

[pasag]

I am not talking about draft picks, but since 1996, Geelong supporters have been told by the club, that they are rebuilding, training the youth and the day of glory will soon be upon you. But the hard work has been done, years spent indoctrinating and now what. In the late 90's your side was too old, in the early 00's you were too young, now the age is perfect and there is no excuse.

 

[benchmark00]

Jesus christ, how about we stop making writing teams off so early in the season.