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  1. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Just so weak from Athanaze and McKenzie. I feel really sorry for Kraigg and Louis. They battle through really difficult conditions for a 50 partnership and then numbers 3 and 4 just don't look like they can build on it. Athanaze is a 5 not a 4. McKenzie should not be playing. Hodge bats 3...
  2. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    I'm afraid we have the same batting lineup to look forward to. Honestly, we are so conservative with our selections, there's no ingenuity whatsoever. Kirk has barely moved his feet all series and looks like a walking wicket.
  3. Beamer

    Windies Team Discussion, and Other Related Things Thread

    Agreed r.e Alzarri. I'd rest him for a few tests and see how some others do. I hope you're right r.e Sinclair. I'd rather he was batting than McKenzie.
  4. Beamer

    Windies Team Discussion, and Other Related Things Thread

    A couple of thoughts on our test team moving forward after the last test. What do we do with Alzarri? He is partially effective, taking wickets at around 30-35 pretty consistently. But he has been around for 8 years now and doesn't appear to be improving in red ball cricket. He bowls at 90mph...
  5. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    The Caribbean is a tourist destination made up of multiple islands and different territories. Internal flights are incredibly expensive and we have to fly players to different islands for every match. When the players are on an island they have to stay at expensive tourist hotels, paying...
  6. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Agree completely with this. The only things I would add are: The change in funding system back in the 2000s meaning that the home team makes all the money from series they host royally screwed us over. The Caribbean is the most expensive place in world cricket to host series and we can only...
  7. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    And dropped a ridiculous number of catches through opportunities generated on this 'road.' Shall we both talk about the quality of England touring teams in various places over the years that have been worse than this?
  8. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    100% agreed. I've mostly grown up when we have been rubbish with sporadic examples of success, but at least I've lived through proper test series when guys coming in have form and experience behind them and we had a home series not played during hurricane season. Seeing all of these stats due...
  9. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    That would seem to be what the ICC, ECB, Cricket Australia and BCCI want. Self fulfilling prophecy. Hoover up all the money from home tours and TV deals, limit everyone outside the big 3 to two or three match series, IPL series grows and grows until it basically takes over our entire home...
  10. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Sick of hot takes like this tbh. Do your research, watch our last series. We're not good yes but I firmly believe with luck, decent preparation and the right conditions we could win a test in England like we have on the last two tours. Focus on England's strengths and performance not ill...
  11. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Such a shame to collapse like that after a solid test performance up until that point. Alas it was a reminder that our batting is still diabolical and needs significant change. England bowled really well and this time Hodge and Athanaze couldn't get in to save us. We dropped a stupid a number...
  12. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    And yes I'm not sure how Jason Holder is still there. It's one of the worst test innings I've seen. Though England have bowled really well at him.
  13. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Getting a little irritated with this "grinded through the day with grit and determination" narrative. We scored at well over 4 runs per over and scored boundaries on all sides of the wicket. It was an excellent display of batting today. The only grit was in surviving a crazy spell from Wood...
  14. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Not just grit tbh, much better attacking intent, we are scoring at over 4 runs per over. Just so much better to watch for all concerned.
  15. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    I think we're at the stage where there is nothing to lose by giving the white ball players a go as they cannot be worse than Kirk, who you can just see has not learned how to build an innings. King is the most obvious one, as he has red ball pedigree. Pooran is more of a wildcard but he is so...
  16. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    In which case Root and Brook need to retire :). They don;t have lack of experience as an excuse for their shots!
  17. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Isn't it more about individual style and strengths? For example, I think Duckett will just get out early if he indeterminately pokes at balls outside off because he is incapable of leaving. He is better off carrying on the assault. Crawley is better in an attacking mindset but I do feel he has...
  18. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    It's very simple. No belief in the batting lineup combined with a suspicion that England are slightly weaker when having to set the pace at the start of a test. I really don't think it matters when our batting is this bad.
  19. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Not sure I buy the pitch is difficult to time the ball. Did you see Duckett basically just touch the ball without much follow through and it just kept flying to the boundary? Trent Bridge is also the fastest outfield I have seen outside of India. Still, there was a little bit of movement...
  20. Beamer

    *Official* West Indies Tour of England, JULY 9th to 25th, 2024-- 3 TEST MATCHES

    Kraigg averages 40 plus in FC cricket if you remove tests. Interestingly, by the same measure, Shai Hope averages over 50.

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