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    Ricky Ponting VS M S Dhoni

    Dhoni was very fast early career by the standards of the time. He slowed a lot later and the game got quicker, but he was still quick on the whole.
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    Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

    Noice. I knew you get good deals on phone and internet, but am surprised by the cable prices. For reference, Malawi is the poorest coumtry I have lived in. Something like 20% of the GDP per capita of India, and full cable costs around 7 times that amount.
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    Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

    That is weirdly cheap. That's normal cable, not something like IPTV? I pay a similar amount for IPTV, but I think cable is usually in the 50 dollar range in most countries I've lived in.
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    Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

    That's... slightly different.
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    Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

    Damn, that's cheap for Chennai. I vaguely understand the swings the country (and especially city) have gone through, but it still seems low.. How much would the same apartment cost today? I'm currency converting off the cheap countries I have lived in FTR. I understand that places like the UK...
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    Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

    Holy **** thats cheap for rent when currency converting. Most of the countries I have lived in have been cheap, but nothing like that unless living in the sticks. What city? My first reaction to seeing 15% of rent on TV is that it's insanely unaffordable. But looking at our expenses, qe...
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    Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

    Coolio. Does your impression of him as a competent keeper align with the non-Flower haters I have read on CW. Competent even if looking a bit sloppy? I'm curious about what affordable was in India at the time? It was really expensive in RSA, not sure of the price at all, but maybe in the...
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    Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

    Do you remember his keeping in tests with a degree of clarity? I saw him keep (minimally admittedly), but I remember squat about how good a job he did. It's possible that my lack of memory reflects well on him. A good keeper is not very memorable. But significantly more likely that I just don't...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    I don't mind where the threshold is drawn, as long as it is above the line of helping your team. I do find myself rating bats lower who are above the line, but I also kinda think it's a bit dumb to do so. Anyway, regardless of where the line gets drawn, I think early Kallis is on the greener...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    Nobody has claimed Kallis faced unique difficulties. Just that he has a stronger case for extenuating circumstances than Ponting. Kallis, the fact that he was crap with the bat for his first few years notwithstanding, was playing alongside a bunch of bats averaging in the teens and 20s. And was...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    You seem a bit more obsessed with their career averages than most. Going on about a 1 point swing is crazy talk. 3 points is something, but not much. The relative respect for Kallis in terms of averages comes primarily from there being a very big gap in away averages, and the very big gap in...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    You have raised the impact of minnows on average repeatedly. It creates a delta of one run in average between the two. There is a delta of 3 runs between their career averages. 3 is more than 1. So are you intentionally raising meaningless points about minnows, or should we consider Kallis to...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    This conversation is a result of you saying Zim and Bangers raised Kallis' average. But nice job trying to change the focus after you get called out on it. RSA had horrific holes in their top order before and after Kallis debuted. Look at the numbers most of the players in their top 6 were...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    Minnows (if you want to include the Zim teams they mainly played against, which is a bit harsh) raised Kallis' average by two and Ponting's by one. If you think this one run difference is meaningful, you should be regarding the difference between their career averages as extremely meaningful. A...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    Ya. It drops his average by a staggering 2 runs. And he is completely unique in this regard, cos he is the only bat to ever score against minnows. The only notable impact on his average that removing them brings is that it turns him into the highest averaging bat with a complete career in the...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    OFC a home and away average are not the same. I don't think people tend to present it that way. It's just an exceptional home average relative to his colleagues. But by a greater degree than just about anyone else in modern cricket, with a caveat that you need to include quality of the...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    If the point you are trying to make us that he played most of his career in a weak bowling era, then sure. This isn't news or particularly relevant to conditions.
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

    Do you think this is true in relation to Ponting? I don't think conditions were that different between AUS and RSA at the start of their careers, but they diverged pretty heavily. Look at the 3 highest averaging bats from each team from the 2000s, who have counterparts with comparable batting...
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    Battle of the Bowling Peaks

    My impression is something like that for Shoaib and Harris, but the way Harris managed his injuries was less of a problem for the team. Murali was over 7, and over more matches. Marshall was already out rested or injured for a number of games. He doesn't take 50% more wickets like Murali...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting


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