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    Wasim Akram vs Malcolm Marshall

    Wasim's peak wasn't even the best in his own side at the time he was peaking.
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    IDK where the line sits, but Sachin definitely falls on the aggressive side of it. And an slow number 1 doesn't change how aggressive the next 6 will be. I'm not fielding a grinder at the expense of a better player just for variety, but it wouldn't hurt.
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Why would you want a more aggressive bat specifically? The lineup is stacked with aggression and lacking in players that can grind the opposition out.
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    We are saying they are wrong in terms of assessing how good a player is by rating players differently. Sure, they are entitled to an opinion on who they personally didn't like playing against, and we can't argue with that. But this is not an assessment of how good a player is- it just shows that...
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    I think giving weight to wrong opinions is wrong. I also think the vast majority of peer opinions are based on skillsets that players admire rather than a means of assessing the most effective players.
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    You understand that you are saying that the peer rating is wrong, and still using it to shape your own opinion?
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    You rate a notably higher proportion of bowlers from Wasim's era above him than you do for bats above Kallis. You can't hold the position that Wasim's peer rating was correctly higher, and that your own ratings are correct. Only one is possible.
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    The point of this thread is to find the best player. You are saying his peer rating (or Kallis') was wrong by putting Kallis closer to the top of the pile.
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    And? Even you are arguing that more players from Wasim's era are ahead of him, and you aren't exactly the most neutral poster when it comes to Kallis.
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    Nope, not saying that. I don't know, and am not fighting it either way. If forced, I'd pick Akram actually, but I suspect that is just due to defaulting to the 'bowlers are more valuable than bats' trope, rather than Akram actually being better. I'm just responding to a comment about Akram...
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    They would be about equal in terms of players above them from history with more bats than bowlers (by looking at CW rankings). Almost all the higher ranked bowlers played in Wasim's time and the bats are dispersed through history though.
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    Wasim Akram Vs Kallis

    If you are trying to turn it into a peer based comparison, I feel like Wasim doesn't fare that well. He's clearly behind a number of 80s and 90s bowlers. Not as many bats are clearly ahead of Kallis, and there are more bats than bowlers, and more teams playing.
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    The Best Wicket keeper?

    I don't think he was more than adequate against pace. Poor I think. I may be overestimating the importance of pace in his career though. A lot of what I saw him keep to was pace on account of watching him play in RSA. Not quite the same skills. In tests, if you drop a catch you are having a...
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    The Best Wicket keeper?

    Dhoni was great in ODIs with how he pressured the bats, but pretty meh in tests. For people with long keeping stints, I think I might rate him the best in ODIs I've seen, and the worst in tests.
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    Dale Steyn vs Muralitharan

    Can we please stop with this condescending you didn't watch the game stuff? For half the players we debate over on PCs, none of us have seen. If you know something from watching the games that the scorecards don't reflect, feel free to bring it up. But the way people lord games they have seen...
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    Dale Steyn vs Muralitharan

    Do you really think that Steyn taking 16@30 lost the series when Morkel + Ntini took 16@40ish? Steyn had a poor series, but if they had not been hot garbage, RSA still would have won. Do you think RSA would have won that series if he had had a regulation poor ATG series and taken 3 or 4 WPM...
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    Dale Steyn vs Muralitharan

    I don't get why people on CW are so intent on dictating what others have watched or not watched. I watched most of the 1st innings in the UAE game. I don't understand why this is relevant. It's a game that the scorecard doesn't lie in. No ****, Steyn's full on attack MO was bad for the team...
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    Dale Steyn vs Muralitharan

    Player did not succeed in every match they ever played. More news at 11. There are absolutely going to be examples of any player having the wrong MO for the circumstances. Of the matches you have listed, he went sub 3 ER vs Pakistan, and they won with more than a day to spare. What point are...
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    Dale Steyn vs Muralitharan

    Are the benefits exaggerated? He sits close to the top of the pile for WPM for quicks despite playing in a batting era and alongside a bunch of very fast striking bowlers. And the benefits of not giving much bowling to some Harris/Tahir 40ish average spinner are huge. You aren't showing this at...
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    Am I misreading this comment? The idea that decisions made by traditional cricketing powers should determine how conditions are in other places feels like it could be incredibly, incredibly problematic to me.

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