DrWolverine
International Debutant
Waugh played in a team of superstars.
Border took over the reigns and made them world champions.
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Ricky Ponting vs. Allan Border
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Border took over the reigns and made them world champions.
Burgey
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On what planet? Cricket not popular in India before he came along? Come on. Great player, but failed as a leader at a time when India's batting line up was world class but repeatedly failed away from home under him. You can't even argue India was on the way up under his leadership when he pulled the pin or anything like that. In his last few years it felt as though everything revolved around what he wanted or didn't want in that side. I don't think it's a coincidence they got almost instantly better when he left.
Slifer
International Captain
Important to maybe India or Asia but that's it.
Slifer
International Captain
Me too. Safraz was important for pioneering reverse swing, ditto Imran. Sir Gary needs no introduction. Lillee was the modern architect of fast bowling etc.
DrWolverine
International Debutant
Kerry Packer and Jagmohan Dalmiya had a bigger impact on the game than any cricketer in the last 50 years.
DrWolverine
International Debutant
NBA was popular even before Jordan but he was the first superstar and he took the game to insane levels of popularity, endorsements, money. A big reason why they became insanely popular was because America changed tremendously under President Ronald Reagan. 1990s was a very important decade for India economically. Like Michael, Sachin Tendulkar was the right person at the right place and at right time.
kyear2
International Coach
Magic and Bird saved the league though.
When they first played the finals were tape delayed, they changed all of that.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah Jordan stood on their shoulders. In a good way.
DrWolverine
International Debutant
Magic vs(and) Bird took it from 1x to 10x
Jordan just took it from 10x to 100x
Magic & Bird were just as important but dont get the same recognition as MJ
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Tendulkars importance was his contributing factor to the rise of India as a global market for cricket connected with his unique super stardom. He was the talisman figure of sorts in the 90s. In fact, I would almost say he WAS Indian cricket at the time.
However, I think in terms of sheer influence on the field, there have been more.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
In terms of influence in the field it will be Imran, then Border, followed by Lloyd.
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
Punter marginally better I think
kyear2
International Coach
Border lay the foundation for what would be arguably the greatest team of all time. Lloyd built what was at the point the greatest team of all time, how was Imran's greater?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Um let's see:
- Unifying the most divisive team in cricket
- Taking a mid low tier team and taking it to the top tier to the point it can challenge WI for the top spot with far fewer resources than Lloyd
- Handpicking and grooming a next gen of cricket legends of Waqar and Inzi and others. They wouldn't have careers without Imran. Far more involved in that process than any other captain.
- Other aspects of influence include reverse swing and neutral umpires
You can argue others are better captain but Imran had more influence relative to the challenge of the team
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Already practicing for a career in politics huh
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Poor guys in jail, let's give him a break
akilana
International 12th Man
he's from SC.. it makes him better. I think he's behind ranatunga when it comes to unifying the team to get the best out of them and put them on the map.