Thala_0710
State Vice-Captain
Not sure about that. Have all 4 of them in the same tier with Punter>Chappell>Kallis>Sanga for me
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Steve Smith vs Sachin Tendulkar (after 205 innings)
- Thread starter Narayana
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DrWolverine
International Debutant
Similar issue like Lillee.
Played 78 out of 87 Tests in Aus, Eng & NZ.
Just 3 Tests in Pak & 1 Test in SL. None in Ind.
Coronis
International Coach
Sobers SR is listed at 52-53 by Davis.
DrWolverine
International Debutant
In the future I would probably have Root in the same tier as Kallis, Sanga, Ponting or maybe even better than all of them
Johan
International Captain
tbh I think Viv is better simply because he's better in both big countries they can tour, England and Australia.
With WSC, Viv has like 8 tons in Australia, 2500+ runs and averages 50+, not even close. Viv clearly also has a better England record, also a better record in Pakistan, his India record is worse.
overall, I rate the ability to master so many conditions better than Sobers as why I think he's better, Sobers is better at home no doubt but his Windies was substantially flatter imo and I rate adaptive ability of Viv over Sober's superiority on grassless Dry batting paradises tbh, think it takes more skill.
I think if Viv played in Gary's era he'd average 53-54 but have a better away record than Sobers.
DrWolverine
International Debutant
Tier : Sachin. Smith. Sobers. Viv. Hutton.
Tier : Lara. Gavaskar. Barrington.
Tier : Kallis. Ponting. Sanga. Root.
Maybe I am missing some names.
But it is roughly how I would go about.
Tier : Lara. Gavaskar. Barrington.
Tier : Kallis. Ponting. Sanga. Root.
Maybe I am missing some names.
But it is roughly how I would go about.
Johan
International Captain
@subshakerz don't come back when Root makes tons in Australia later this year, don't come back when he retires with a 50+ average, don't come back when he breaks THE record. Stay on that side.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Hammond/Gavaskar/Sutcliffe/Headley all ahead of those in a tier too.
Kallis for me is behind the tier of Border/Waugh/Sanga.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
If he does all that, then we can talk.
Johan
International Captain
the conversation at that point would not be Ponting
Johan
International Captain
feel like maybe Hammond and Headley are ahead of Sunny and Sutcliffe are by a distinct margin.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Maybe.
Here is what I think are the tiers:
Bradman
Sachin/Hobbs/Viv/Sobers
Smith/Hutton/Lara
Hammond/Headley/Gavaskar/Sutcliffe
Chappell/Pollock/Punter
Border/Waugh/Sanga/Kallis
Hopefully more come to push Kallis out of the top 20.
Johan
International Captain
He did play in West Indies in WSC, averaged...58 I think?
Johan
International Captain
for me, personally
Bradman
Hobbs
Sachin/Hutton/Viv/Sobers, all fighting tooth and nail.
Lara/Smith (Smith might go down)
Hammond/Gavaskar/Headley/Pollock
Sutcliffe/Chappel/Maybe Border?
Punter/Root/Jack/Sanga
wow you really don't like Jack lol
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Johan
International Captain
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah but I have ranked him the same as you, 18th.
kyear2
International Coach
This paints the picture of an invaluable bowler who just didn't show up and clean up the tail. Taking on set partnerships and never with the new ball.
What more can you ask?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Dude stop talking about Kallis in this thread.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Bradman
Hobbs/Tendulkar/Sobers/Hutton/Lara/Smith/Viv/Gavaskar
Hammond/Sutcliffe/Pollock/Border/Kallis/Sangakkara/Chappell/Waugh/Root/Ponting/Dravid/Barrington/Trumper
Weekes/Nourse/Miandad/Walcott/ABD/Compton/Harvey/Younis/Williamson/Kohli/Kanhai/May/Boycott/Worrell/Flower/Lloyd/Crowe
Greenidge/Amla/Chanderpaul/Mitchell/Smith/Simpson/Hayden/Cook/Inzamam/Sehwag/McCabe/Pietersen/Laxman/Clarke/Cowdrey/Jayawardene/Gilchrist/Gooch/Herbie/Gower/Yousuf/Lawry/Hazare/Morris/Ponsford/Hanif/Dexter/Hunte/Hussey/Kirsten/Hassett
Hobbs/Tendulkar/Sobers/Hutton/Lara/Smith/Viv/Gavaskar
Hammond/Sutcliffe/Pollock/Border/Kallis/Sangakkara/Chappell/Waugh/Root/Ponting/Dravid/Barrington/Trumper
Weekes/Nourse/Miandad/Walcott/ABD/Compton/Harvey/Younis/Williamson/Kohli/Kanhai/May/Boycott/Worrell/Flower/Lloyd/Crowe
Greenidge/Amla/Chanderpaul/Mitchell/Smith/Simpson/Hayden/Cook/Inzamam/Sehwag/McCabe/Pietersen/Laxman/Clarke/Cowdrey/Jayawardene/Gilchrist/Gooch/Herbie/Gower/Yousuf/Lawry/Hazare/Morris/Ponsford/Hanif/Dexter/Hunte/Hussey/Kirsten/Hassett
Johan
International Captain
Hutton should go up