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Virat Kohli vs kane Williamson

Who is better test batsmen

  • Virat Kohli

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • Kane Williamson

    Votes: 14 60.9%
  • Total voters
    23
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Thala_0710

State Vice-Captain
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These are Kohli's and KW's records in the 14-19 period. For me, Kohli was clearly better than KW this period.
Kohli dominated everyone at home bar Australia in this period and has a fabulous record, KW also has a very good home record but he struggles against AUS, PAK and WI this period while being decent against IND.
As for their away record, Kane's away avg is clearly this high due to Zim and WI (with an attack of Taylor and Roach). His avgs below 54 (his away in this period) everywhere else, although his Australia record is very good in this period, pretty decent in ENG and SA, and a bit of a struggle in Asia. The only place though where KW avgs higher than Kohli is ENG (and even there Kohli has an ATG series, and WI)
Kohli on the other hand has an exceptional record in AUS, a very good NZ series and pretty decent records in SA, NZ and SL too. The only place he struggles is ENG and there too he had an ATG series while making 9 SENA 100s in this period.
So overall, I have to go Kohli easily in this period
 
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Narayana

Narayana

U19 Cricketer
Fuller Pilch said:
Superb in WI in 2014, Aus in 2016, and one of the very few to conquer Yasir Shah in the UAE.
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No Wi bowler
Thala_0710 said:
Away avg in SENA+IND+SL:
Kohli: 42.23
Williamson: 31.67

Away avg in SENA+IND+SL since they turned 23:
Kohli: 42.23
Williamson: 34.79
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Majestic said:
I will pick Kohli because I would want my team to compete vs big boys rather than just bash weaker teams and make a career of that.

No other batter since my time of watching cricket having as bad an away average vs top 5 teams as Williamson does is rated as highly as Kane Williamson.
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Did you watched 90s era Lara?
He also had similar or more worse record against Top 4 teams in away conditions.
 
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PlayerComparisons

International Captain
Thala_0710 said:
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These are Kohli's and KW's records in the 14-19 period. For me, Kohli was clearly better than KW this period.
Kohli dominated everyone at home bar Australia in this period and has a fabulous record, KW also has a very good home record but he struggles against AUS, PAK and WI this period while being decent against IND.
As for their away record, Kane's away avg is clearly this high due to Zim and WI (with an attack of Taylor and Roach). His avgs below 54 (his away in this period) everywhere else, although his Australia record is very good in this period, pretty decent in ENG and SA, and a bit of a struggle in Asia.
Kohli on the other hand has an exceptional record in AUS, a very good NZ series and pretty decent records in SA, NZ and SL too. The only place he struggles is ENG and there too he had an ATG series while making 9 SENA 100s in this period.
So overall, I have to go Kohli easily in this period
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His series in WI were tough runs and he scored some tough runs in the UAE against Pak as well which isn’t shown here.

Idk who was better but it seems pretty strange to say there was some massive difference between them during this period tbh.
 
OverratedSanity

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Prince EWS said:
Kohli's career has become under-rated because he's so crap right now and there's some natural recency bias there. I also think that right before his dramatic decline that his average undersold him a bit because his home pitches had become much more challenging than Williamson's and Smith's in particular.

Williamson's average flatters him a bit but he's underrated on here by dumb analysis by checklist merchants.
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I mean I agree on the whole but I think you're really just wrong on the bolded part. During Kohli's 2014-2019 peak we had a buttload of complete roads in home series. And Kohli did a masterful job piling up runs on dead pitches but usually failed on the more spin friendly decks so I cant really give him too much credit for his supposedly extremely tough home pitches. There was the odd series (like the 2015 one vs SA) that had real rank turners but otherwise it really wasn't the case until way later (after Kohli's peak ended).
 
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Thala_0710

State Vice-Captain
PlayerComparisons said:
His series in WI were tough runs and he scored some tough runs in the UAE against Pak as well which isn’t shown here.

Anyways they’re about equal during this period.
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How are they equal exactly? I'm not getting it. Against almost all top teams Kohli has a clearly superior record (home+away) including AUS, ENG, SL, NZ (IND for KW). Williamson is a bit better against SA and much better against WI. I'm not really getting why is this close
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
Thala_0710 said:
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These are Kohli's and KW's records in the 14-19 period. For me, Kohli was clearly better than KW this period.
Kohli dominated everyone at home bar Australia in this period and has a fabulous record, KW also has a very good home record but he struggles against AUS, PAK and WI this period while being decent against IND.
As for their away record, Kane's away avg is clearly this high due to Zim and WI (with an attack of Taylor and Roach). His avgs below 54 (his away in this period) everywhere else, although his Australia record is very good in this period, pretty decent in ENG and SA, and a bit of a struggle in Asia. The only place though where KW avgs higher than Kohli is ENG (and even there Kohli has an ATG series, and WI)
Kohli on the other hand has an exceptional record in AUS, a very good NZ series and pretty decent records in SA, NZ and SL too. The only place he struggles is ENG and there too he had an ATG series while making 9 SENA 100s in this period.
So overall, I have to go Kohli easily in this period
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lol why have you excluded all of Kane’s runs away against Pakistan in 2014 and 2018
 
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Thala_0710

State Vice-Captain
OverratedSanity said:
I mean I agree on the whole but I think you're really just wrong on the bolded part. During Kohli's 2014-2019 peak we had a buttload of complete roads in home series. And Kohli did a masterful job piling up runs on dead pitches but usually failed on the more spin friendly decks so I cant really give him too much credit for his supposedly extremely tough home pitches. There was the odd series (like the 2015 one vs SA) that had real rank turners but otherwise it really wasn't the case until way later (after Kohli's peak ended).
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I agree on the part that Kohli did get very good home surfaces to bat on but so did KW in this comparison. The batting avg in IND during this period is 30.49 while in NZ it is 33.80. So it's not like one was batting on roads and the other one wasn't. KW was batting on arguably flatter home wickets
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Thala_0710 said:
I agree on the part that Kohli did get very good home surfaces to bat on but so did KW in this comparison. The batting avg in IND during this period is 30.49 while in NZ it is 33.80. So it's not like one was batting on roads and the other one wasn't. KW was batting on arguably flatter home wickets
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A 3 run avg difference leaves little room for "arguably" tbt
 
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Thala_0710

State Vice-Captain
thierry henry said:
lol why have you excluded all of Kane’s runs away against Pakistan in 2014 and 2018
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I only filtered away records, and since those matches were held in UAE they didn't show up. My bad on that one. But Kohli didn't get to play Pak in UAE which were again batting friendly, even with Yasir. Williamson has a good record there which still counts ofc. But, even then Kohli is clearly ahead imo in this period
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
Also no-one specified when exactly in 2014 and 2019 we were drawing the cut off, cos Kane’s away stats are hurt a lot by bad away series against SL and Aus in late 2019. I would say that era for Kane ended at the WC and the 2019/20 tour of Aus in particular was when the ‘KW the failure on tough tours’ era started. If you draw the cut-off differently you’d be saying KW dominated in Aus and didn’t play SL. Goes to show the general silliness of checking off country-by-country based on tiny samples really.
 
Narayana

Narayana

U19 Cricketer
Thala_0710 said:
How are they equal exactly? I'm not getting it. Against almost all top teams Kohli has a clearly superior record (home+away) including AUS, ENG, SL, NZ (IND for KW). Williamson is a bit better against SA and much better against WI. I'm not really getting why is this close
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Lol Williamson statpadded against farmers of sa in 2023/24 .
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Thala_0710 said:
How are they equal exactly? I'm not getting it. Against almost all top teams Kohli has a clearly superior record (home+away) including AUS, ENG, SL, NZ (IND for KW). Williamson is a bit better against SA and much better against WI. I'm not really getting why is this close
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Kohli is easily better vs SA. Williamson scored massively against a C team
 
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