Who is the best since Bradman?

[Van_Sri]

Saeed Anwar

v India

1989-2003

50

48

2

2002

194

43.52

2210

90.58

4

8

2

216

34

Sachin Tendulkar

v Pakistan

1989-2012

69

67

4

2526

141

40.09

2887

87.49

5

16

5

294

29

Anwar Scored 41.71 Runs Per Innings vs India and Sachin Scored 37.70 Runs Per Innings vs Pakistan . Saeed Anwar was the ODI GOAT vs India . Sachin from 1989-2003 scored 1433 Runs in 42 Innings @34.12 Runs Per Innings. Brian Lara from 1989-2003 scored 1418 Runs in 39 Innings @36.36 Runs Per Innings vs Pakistan

@Prince EWS

 

[Prince EWS]

@Prince EWS

I'm not sure of the particular relevance of Saeed Anwar's ODI record against India to who the best Test batsman since Bradman is, lol.

 

[h_hurricane]

It's also very instructional to look at some of his scores between those hundreds. Quite a bit of these series were quite lean apart from those scores.

Marshall and Sobers are the only 2 cricketers in history whose record will look good even if you take out all their good and great performances.

 

[Van_Sri]

I'm not sure of the particular relevance of Saeed Anwar's ODI record against India to who the best Test batsman since Bradman is, lol.

Sachin did not play most of the Tests against his biggest rival Pakistan in Tests in 90s but Bradman played against England most of the times. So ODI Record I compared and Sachin’s record was not better than other Batsman of his Era like Anwar and Lara. Lara > Sachin vs Pakistan in 90s.

 

[Swamp Witch Hattie]

Marshall and Sobers are the only 2 cricketers in history whose record will look good even if you take out all their good and great performances.

Barry was even better than them because the average of all of his ducks in FC cricket was still over 50!

 

[_00_deathscar]

I said what I said and also referenced the speed of pitches he was successful on.

It's also very instructional to look at some of his scores between those hundreds. Quite a bit of these series were quite lean apart from those scores.

No one's saying he wasn't an ATG, but this revisionist history that didn't exist when he played is a bit well, overplayed.

He was called a fair weather batsman for a reason.

"iF u TaKe OuT tHe HuNdReDz"

Yes, let's start taking things out, why don't we...starting from the year 1976 from Viv. Oh look at that...

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Let’s remove one of Barry’s test series

 

[Swamp Witch Hattie]

Let’s remove one of Barry’s test series

You would still be left with an incredible batsman who was never dismissed by any bowler at Test level!

 

[capt_Luffy]

You would still be left with an incredible batsman who was never dismissed by any bowler at Test level!

Tbf Barry was never dismissed in Tests by any top 200 bowler even including that series...... Even bowled better than the only top 100 AT Australian bowler he played against. WAG

 

[Swamp Witch Hattie]

Tbf Barry was never dismissed in Tests by any top 200 bowler even including that series...... Even bowled better than the only top 100 AT Australian bowler he played against. WAG

 

[h_hurricane]

If you take out all of Marshall's test hundreds, his batting average remains the same. If you take out all of Sobers' 10 fors, his bowling average remains the same. Kyear2 is fair in his criticism of Gavaskar.

 

[Prince EWS]

Let’s remove one of Barry’s test series

 

[Swamp Witch Hattie]

Apart from Barry Richards' superlative abilities as an opening batsman, I believe there are two obvious Freudian reasons for why @kyear2 is enamoured by him: firstly, Barry shares the same surname as Viv, and secondly, he played for the same county as Marshall. kyear2's subconscious sees Barry Richards as some sort of ideal amalgam of Viv and Maco (the ultimate attacking batsman and the ultimate attacking bowler) merged together into the one human. In the deepest, darkest recesses of kyear2's fertile imagination, he doesn't see Barry as having played just four Tests but rather, 121 + 81 = 202 Tests which is 2 more than Sachin, making Barry the most capped cricketer in history so more than proven.

 

[Coronis]

"iF u TaKe OuT tHe HuNdReDz"

Ok have done this.

For min 20 innings the number one batsman is….you guessed it!

Douglas Jardine 1169 @ 44.96 10 fifties

How did some of our notable batsmen do

Sutcliffe 2466 @ 40.42 23 fifties
Hobbs 3261 @ 40.25 28 fifties
Barrington 4039 @ 39.99 35 fifties
Hutton 4005 @ 37.08 33 fifties
Border 7594 @ 37.04 63 fifties
Pollock 1109 @ 36.96 11 fifties
Chanderpaul 8029 @ 36.66 66 fifties @SillyCowCorner1
Weekes 2199 @ 36.04 19 fifties
Dravid 8005 @ 35.42 63 fifties
Bradman 1603 @ 34.10 13 fifties
Walcott 1798 @ 33.92 14 fifties
Kallis 7118 @ 33.89 58 fifties
Sobers 4114 @ 33.72 30 fifties
Waugh 6585 @ 33.42 50 fifties
Smith 5121 @ 33.25 41 fifties
Richards 5004 @ 33.13 45 fifties
Ponting 7389 @ 32.98 62 fifties
Hammond 3564 @ 32.69 24 fifties
Root 7462 @ 32.58 65 fifties
Sangakkara 6056 @ 32.55 52 fifties
Tendulkar 8486 @ 32.51 68 fifties
Chappell 3645 @ 32.25 31 fifties
Lara 6064 @ 31.25 48 fifties
Gavaskar 5320 @ 31.11 45 fifties
Dickwella Line (30.97)
Williamson 4453 @ 30.50 37 fifties
Hill 2377 @ 29.71 19 fifties
Voges 622 @ 28.27 4 fifties
Kohli 4758 @ 27.66 31 fifties
Trumper 1974 @ 25.97 13 fifties
Headley 706 @ 24.34 5 fifties

Only 4 batsmen average above 40 (Phil Sharpe is the 4th, which makes the entire top 5 English - something to finally rest their laurels on?)

Conclusions:

Sutcliffe and Barrington are underrated.
Bradman and Headley’s records are really held up by their centuries.
Hill > Trumper @capt_Luffy

 

[capt_Luffy]

Ok have done this.

For min 20 innings the number one batsman is….you guessed it!

Douglas Jardine 1169 @ 44.96 10 fifties

How did some of our notable batsmen do

Sutcliffe 2466 @ 40.42 23 fifties
Hobbs 3261 @ 40.25 28 fifties
Barrington 4039 @ 39.99 35 fifties
Hutton 4005 @ 37.08 33 fifties
Border 7594 @ 37.04 63 fifties
Pollock 1109 @ 36.96 11 fifties
Chanderpaul 8029 @ 36.66 66 fifties @SillyCowCorner1
Weekes 2199 @ 36.04 19 fifties
Dravid 8005 @ 35.42 63 fifties
Bradman 1603 @ 34.10 13 fifties
Walcott 1798 @ 33.92 14 fifties
Kallis 7118 @ 33.89 58 fifties
Sobers 4114 @ 33.72 30 fifties
Waugh 6585 @ 33.42 50 fifties
Smith 5121 @ 33.25 41 fifties
Richards 5004 @ 33.13 45 fifties
Ponting 7389 @ 32.98 62 fifties
Hammond 3564 @ 32.69 24 fifties
Root 7462 @ 32.58 65 fifties
Sangakkara 6056 @ 32.55 52 fifties
Tendulkar 8486 @ 32.51 68 fifties
Chappell 3645 @ 32.25 31 fifties
Lara 6064 @ 31.25 48 fifties
Gavaskar 5320 @ 31.11 45 fifties
Dickwella Line (30.97)
Williamson 4453 @ 30.50 37 fifties
Hill 2377 @ 29.71 19 fifties
Voges 622 @ 28.27 4 fifties
Kohli 4758 @ 27.66 31 fifties
Trumper 1974 @ 25.97 13 fifties
Headley 706 @ 24.34 5 fifties

Only 4 batsmen average above 40 (Phil Sharpe is the 4th, which makes the entire top 5 English - something to finally rest their laurels on?)

Conclusions:

Sutcliffe and Barrington are underrated.
Bradman and Headley’s records are really held up by their centuries.
Hill > Trumper @capt_Luffy

I was going to give a like until the last line but...... Well, it does proves Kyear2's point that Don and Sobers aren't that far apart as batsmen

 

[Coronis]

I was going to give a like until the last line but...... Well, it does proves Kyear2's point that Don and Sobers aren't that far apart as batsmen

Hill is as far ahead of Trumper as Sutcliffe is of Chanders

 

[capt_Luffy]

Hill is as far ahead of Trumper as Sutcliffe is of Chanders

Or as far ahead Chanders is of Tendulkar.....

 

[OverratedSanity]

Consistency is brought up for Tendulkar, but he always had easier home pitches, and his 90's record is greatly aided by minnows.

Yeah those zero runs vs Bangladesh and the 25 average vs a minnow Zimbabwe team (that beat India) really pumped Sachin's numbers up in the 90s brother, you're totally right.

 

[Prince EWS]

Yeah those zero runs vs Bangladesh and the 25 average vs a minnow Zimbabwe team (that beat India) really pumped Sachin's numbers up in the 90s brother, you're totally right.

Australia and England are the real minnows.

 

[Coronis]

Australia and England are the real minnows.

EA minnows. Its in the cricket game.