Brian Lara vs Ricky Ponting (against pace bowling)

[subshakerz]

Sehwag?

Sehwag did on a flat Multan track. Ponting did in Perth.

 

[Johan]

Sehwag did on a flat Multan track. Ponting did in Perth.

Perth can be extremely flat, but tbh I remember lots of times where openers took Shoaib apart, I'm pretty sure both Jaya and Tresco did it too.

 

[subshakerz]

Centuries against pacers(150+ wkts & avg < 25)

Ponting
1997 : Donald & Pollock
1999 : Ambrose & Walsh
1999 : Akram & Akhtar
2005 : Pollock x 4
2008 : Steyn

Brian Lara
1997 : McGrath
1999 : McGrath x 3
2000 : McGrath
2003 : Pollock x 2
2005 : McGrath

He has two more against Shoaib, Ponting.

 

[Narayana]

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I disagree Lara is a home town bully

I mean he doesn't average 50 + in any host countries (top teams) except sl , Root has way better record than this.

 

[Johan]

I mean he doesn't average 50 + in any host countries (top teams) except sl , Root has way better record than this.

edit that out with someone else rn

 

[subshakerz]

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I disagree Lara is a home town bully

Lara isn't a home bully he just has an unusually padded away record with some middling returns.

 

[DrWolverine]

mfs would whine about Root and Dravid's away record and then give Lara a free pass smh

1. Flamboyant batting style
2. Numerous double centuries, 375 & 400
3. WI failing and him playing a lone wolf

That’s why fans are more lenient on him compared to other great batsmen who have flaws in his record

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I mean he doesn't average 50 + in any host countries (top teams) except sl , Root has way better record than this.

When you split records into country by country, averages don’t mean much. What matters is making big scores and having big series.

Scoring a couple of big hundreds with nothing else is much better than just scoring a bunch of fifties with no hundred.

 

[Johan]

winning games is all that matters yeah, series is whatever, you can make 70 runs in each inning 6 times and you'd average 70, isn't a big series unless it wins you a game.

 

[Johan]

1. Flamboyant batting style
2. Numerous double centuries, 375 & 400
3. WI failing and him playing a lone wolf

That’s why fans are more lenient on him compared to other great batsmen who have flaws in his record

tbh the Lara lone wolf narrative is stupid, in the 2000s he had Gayle/Hooper/Chanders, all top class batters, agreed on other two.

 

[Narayana]

1. Flamboyant batting style
2. Numerous double centuries, 375 & 400
3. WI failing and him playing a lone wolf

That’s why fans are more lenient on him compared to other great batsmen who have flaws in his record

Isn't joe root also a lone warrior till the Entry of bazball and brook?

 

[Johan]

Isn't joe root also a lone warrior till the Entry of bazball and brook?

from 2017-2022 he was, basically once Cook forgot how to bat and we had Rory Burns, Leeds and Joe Denly opening. Just a horrid era.

 

[pardus]

When was that? Because Ponting played Shoaib more comfortably than any other batter I saw.

Lara...

Well, if we are stooping down to the levels of cherry-picking specific instances of batsmen getting hit/injured by fast bowlers just to prove a point, that can be done for any batsman (including the best of the best). Here goes...

Wasim Akram to Tendulkar in 1994

Shoaib Akhtar to Ponting:

Kenmar Roach to Ponting:

Mohammed Shami to Ponting:

Umesh Yadav to Ponting:

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Ponting exposed

 

[OverratedSanity]

Sehwag did on a flat Multan track. Ponting did in Perth.

Shoaib was a better bowler on abrasive wickets anyway. Rate Sehwag's triple and Dravid's 270 pretty highly because of that tbh even though the non Shoaib bowlers were terrible.

 

[honestbharani]

Lara is easily better.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Well, if we are stooping down to the levels of cherry-picking specific instances of batsmen getting hit/injured by fast bowlers just to prove a point, that can be done for any batsman (including the best of the best). Here goes...

Wasim Akram to Tendulkar in 1994

Shoaib Akhtar to Ponting:

Kenmar Roach to Ponting:

Mohammed Shami to Ponting:

Umesh Yadav to Ponting:

Lmao Ponting btfo. Although both Sachin and Ponting walked those off pretty well tbh. Badass.

 

[Narayana]

Well, if we are stooping down to the levels of cherry-picking specific instances of batsmen getting hit/injured by fast bowlers just to prove a point, that can be done for any batsman (including the best of the best). Here goes...

Wasim Akram to Tendulkar in 1994

Shoaib Akhtar to Ponting:

Kenmar Roach to Ponting:

Mohammed Shami to Ponting:

Umesh Yadav to Ponting:

One thing many don't says, Lara was once averaging 60+ in 90s but by the end of 90s his career average drops to 50 (even lower)
He maintained marnus lebuschagne level consistency.

 

[Johan]

One thing many don't says, Lara was once averaging 60+ in 90s but by the end of 90s his career average drops to 50 (even lower)
He maintained marnus lebuschagne level consistency.

what a comparison

 

[Narayana]

10 + drop

what a comparison

Was he totally inconsistent after mid 90s ?
Else his average wouldn't have dropped 10+.