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Jasprit Bumrah vs Malcolm Marshall

Bumrah vs Marshall at their peak

  • Bumrah

    Votes: 9 20.9%

  • Marshall

    Votes: 34 79.1%
  • Total voters
    43
Sliferxxxx

Sliferxxxx

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subshakerz said:
Bumrah has to have his load managed. To be fair he is still producing comparable worldclass output but I think it's fair to say if you put him in the place of Hadlee in NZ he would be in a lot of trouble.
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What we're doing with Bumrah now, is probably akin to what I did with Smith at the end of 2019 when he was at something like 70 odd tests, an average around 63 and 20 something 100s. I was already comparing him with the upper echelon of cricketing batmanship. Most level minded folks said to give it time and that's what I hope we do now.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Sliferxxxx said:
What we're doing with Bumrah now, is probably akin to what I did with Smith at the end of 2019 when he was at something like 70 odd tests, an average around 63 and 20 something 100s. I was already comparing him with the upper echelon of cricketing batmanship. Most level minded folks said to give it time and that's what I hope we do now.
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I give Bumrah a 50/50 chance to make it to 300 wickets.

I also give him a 50/50 chance of having a serious loss of form due to fitness issues.

I agree it's way to premature to be ranking him with any ATG.
 
OverratedSanity

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Sliferxxxx said:
What we're doing with Bumrah now, is probably akin to what I did with Smith at the end of 2019 when he was at something like 70 odd tests, an average around 63 and 20 something 100s. I was already comparing him with the upper echelon of cricketing batmanship. Most level minded folks said to give it time and that's what I hope we do now.
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Smith is in the top echelon of batsmen though, right?
 
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subshakerz

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capt_Luffy said:
Definitely in the conversation till now, though will definitely place him behind Hobbs and Tendulkar.
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I think that is the point. The last few years does affect standing.

Tendulkar retiring after WC 2011 from all formats would have made him an unquestioned best since Bradman. The dip at the end made it more debatable.
 
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subshakerz

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OverratedSanity said:
He has an argument still so whats the point
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The point is the argument changes radically based on how Smith is even performing now series by series late career.

If Smith averaged 15 in this series against Bumrah most of us would write him off completely as top tier much less best since Bradman. In fact, most of CW has let his ranking slip to the point where he isn't in contention for no.2. Let's be real.

Whereas two years ago he seemed to have that position quite solidly in his grasp.
 
Sliferxxxx

Sliferxxxx

School Boy/Girl Captain
subshakerz said:
The point is the argument changes radically based on how Smith is even performing now series by series late career.

If Smith averaged 15 in this series against Bumrah most of us would write him off completely as top tier much less best since Bradman. In fact, most of CW has let his ranking slip to the point where he isn't in contention for no.2. Let's be real.

Whereas two years ago he seemed to have that position quite solidly in his grasp.
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I can't lie i did....
 
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