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Jasprit Bumrah vs Malcolm Marshall

Bumrah vs Marshall at their peak

  • Bumrah

    Votes: 9 23.7%

  • Marshall

    Votes: 29 76.3%
  • Total voters
    38
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
DrWolverine said:
1. Sachin speaking about “outsiders”
2. Sachin taking up a seat in Rajya Sabha

I am still surprised he both those things

The guy tries to be as non controversial as possible and stays away from politics but these two were unexpected.

To any other celeb these are very minor things but the fact he did those two things was just shocking to me.
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I think he had slight pressure from the Ruling parties to do both honestly...... Both just doesn't seems to be in his character really, but well, sometimes playing safe comes at a cost.
 
OverratedSanity

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Wanna_Be_AB said:
That has to be one of the most selfish things a cricketer has ever done.
If he would have retired after winning the wc that would have been the best retirement ever... cause after a 21 career he finally won the wc and that too at his home ground but still carried on cause he was chasing 2 more records.. 100 centuries & 200 tests
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Maybe he just thought he could still be good. Don't really buy that he thought 200 tests was some big target for him.
 
ankitj

ankitj

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
In seriousness though, I don't know why ICC ratings have a bad rep over here. They are quite good for test cricket and were good for ODIs until about arrival of IPL when top players started skipping international limited over games arbitrarily. I have never seen a player crossing the coveted 900 rating points and felt it was underserved. The ratings always checks out against actual performance.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
ankitj said:
In seriousness though, I don't know why ICC ratings have a bad rep over here. They are quite good for test cricket and were good for ODIs until about arrival of IPL when top players started skipping international limited over games arbitrarily. I have never seen a player crossing the coveted 900 rating points and felt it was underserved. The ratings always checks out against actual performance.
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Tony Lock is literally at 7
 
ankitj

ankitj

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
capt_Luffy said:
Tony Lock is literally at 7
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I don't know I have to look up what Tony Lock did. But Imran at top among post war bowlers, Smith second only to Bradman, Viv Richards very high, Tendulkar not that high etc. all checks out with what we know of their career trajectories.

These are peak ratings, mind. Not their career ratings (just in case there's confusion about that)
 
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ma1978

International Debutant
subshakerz said:
I think that is the point. The last few years does affect standing.

Tendulkar retiring after WC 2011 from all formats would have made him an unquestioned best since Bradman. The dip at the end made it more debatable.
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only in your eyes

which only shows how unsound you are at this
 
ankitj

ankitj

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subshakerz said:
No in anyone's eyes. Retiring with a 57 average and as no.1 bat in the world on top of his reputation sort of does that.

Whereas 23 tests of decline is a fair bit.
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Unless there is anyone who rivals Tendulkar and played for 24 years, it's irrelevant. If all hisn rivals played 22 or less years then Tendulkar's last 2 years and 23 tests are irrelevant to where you rank him.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
ankitj said:
I don't know I have to look up what Tony Lock did. But Imran at top among post war bowlers, Smith second only to Bradman, Viv Richards very high, Tendulkar not that high etc. all checks out with what we know of their career trajectories.

These are peak ratings, mind. Not their career ratings (just in case there's confusion about that)
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Tony Lock especially seems very out of place to me. He even at his best was largely useless away, whereas for home record it's almost impossible to argue against Laker circa Ashes 56 to be below him.
 
ankitj

ankitj

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capt_Luffy said:
Tony Lock especially seems very out of place to me. He even at his best was largely useless away, whereas for home record it's almost impossible to argue against Laker circa Ashes 56 to be below him.
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I think these ratings are not as obsessive about home/away (although they do reward away performances a bit from what I recall reading long ago). And I like it.
 
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subshakerz

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ankitj said:
Unless there is anyone who rivals Tendulkar and played for 24 years, it's irrelevant. If all hisn rivals played 22 or less years then Tendulkar's last 2 years and 23 tests are irrelevant to where you rank him.
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Tendulkar is still the best after Bradman but it's counterintuitive to say that 23 continuous tests of non-performance has zero effect on rating him. Without that it's basically just his prodigy phase and sublime batting prime.
 
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