wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
It's good line, but I suspect that Ronan may be too young to remember the Irish team and manager in the late 1980s/early 1990s.
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**Official** English Football Season 2024/25
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andruid
Cricketer Of The Year
In one of my country's official languages, we have an expression for this. It roughly translates to 'dirty heart/soul'. This man has alot of 'dirty heart/soul'.
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wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
My favourite story was from 15 years or so previously, when Terry Mancini was called up by Ireland due to some fairly distant family connections. As the national anthems were playing before his debut against Poland, Mancini turned to team mate Don Givens and uttered the immortal line “‘For ****’s sake, their anthem goes on, doesn’t it?’ Givens looked at Mancini and pointed out that was actually the Irish one.
I mean he only had to look at the English manager to see an Englishman who played 40 times for Ireland.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Still think it's wild that Ray Houghton got capped 73 times because he wasn't good enough to play for Scotland.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
Yes, I must admit that I thought Houghton had been born in England until I looked it up this morning. And then wondered how he didn't get to play for his country of birth. I suppose that Scotland when he first came along were rather stronger than when he finished. You'll know better than me of course. Good player though.
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Furball
Evil Scotsman
Never really got a look in at youth level, missed out on the 1986 World Cup at the age of 24.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
I suppose he hadn't really stood out by 1986; still playing for Oxford United, and he didn't join Liverpool until 12 months later.
I'm guessing that Scotland had a decent bunch of midfielders in 1986, but he was certainly the one that they missed. He scored what were arguably the two most famous goals in Ireland's history.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
In 86 we still had the Magnificent Bastard, Strachan, an up and coming Paul McStay as well as Bannon and Bett who were mainstays of excellent Dundee Utd and Aberdeen sides. Iain Durrant and Derek Ferguson were also breaking through at Rangers, although neither would end up reaching their potential for different reasons.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
best thing that happened in this dire football weekend
https://x.com/jackkenmare_/status/1832504902284644534
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Skipper Pup
U19 Vice-Captain
Rough few days for Arsenal. Merino injured, Rice suspended and now Odegaard goes off with what appears to be a pretty serious ankle injury.
We may finally see Havertz back in midfield. Either way going to make for an interesting game v Spurs and their fixture list looks very tough
We may finally see Havertz back in midfield. Either way going to make for an interesting game v Spurs and their fixture list looks very tough
Chin Music
State Vice-Captain
I might be late to this, but I would say that Southgate started to get stuck last autumn. If you look at the set up with the Ukraine game in Poland and North Macedonia, England were laborious and the use of some players was questionable. The personnel may have changed slightly by the time the Euros came, but the approach really didn't. Prior to that England had been a lot more positive, recalling the Italy home game in particular, however, I think Southgate got a little bogged down with the idea that maximising a defensive outlook was the key to success. Great if you have Alessandro Nesta/Chiellini or perm any outstanding Italian defender from the last 30 to heck 80 years but England doesn't have them right now. Hence me thinking of the youtube memes of Harry Maguire to the Benny Hill theme...
Molehill
Cricketer Of The Year
Heard an interesting point last night in that Carsley has a far more simple selection process at the moment without the likes of Foden, Bellingham or Palmer available. It actually gets much harder working out a system when he has the full squad at his disposal, when also expectations will rise too.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
Yes, I was talking about that with someone the other day. And obviously, whoever he doesn't pick or doesn't play in exactly their current club role will be grounds for some serious moaning from the usual quarters.
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Skipper Pup
U19 Vice-Captain
Not to mention playing Trent at RB, almost as if he actually watches club football unlike the bozo before him
