I wouldn’t in a test team
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Sehwag vs Jadeja
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capt_Luffy
International Captain
Then fair enough.
They both win matches, only difference is that Ashwin is the better bowler while Jadeja is the better batter. But to say Jadeja doesn't win matches is to be blind and dumb. If you aren't either of those things, then you can feel free to retract that statement.
I think Jadeja is a very valuable cricketer but all of these are relative and you are comparing him to the most valuable bat to ever play in the subcontinent. At no stage would I consider Jadeja in the top three bats or top two bowlers in the team
I don't think Sehwag is the most valuable bat in the subcontinent, and even then Jadeja's allround contributions are significant enough to be more valuable than pure batting performances. Besides, in Tests bowling matters a lot more and Jadeja is no slouch there.
That you wouldn't consider Jadeja like that just shows how limited your perspective is tbh. Everyone else memes aside can see the value in having a frontline level bowler who can bat in the top six compared to just a great opener.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Would consider Tendulkar, Younis, and Jayawardene more valuable than Sehwag in the subcontinent I think
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Rohit is a white ball great, but this seems far far too high for tests. I'd put him behind the likes of Vengsakar and Azharuddin and outside the top 20.
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Then you've obviously not seen him play in India
| Primary team India |
| Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa |
| Home or away home venue |
| Start of match date between 1 Jan 2010 and 31 Dec 2019 |
| Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50 |
| Ordered by bowling average (ascending) |
| Player | Span | Mat | Inns | Overs | Mdns | Runs | Wkts | BBI | BBM | Ave | Econ | SR | 5 | 10 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RA Jadeja | 2012-2019 | 24 | 47 | 1200.5 | 341 | 2657 | 128 | 7/48 | 10/154 | 20.75 | 2.21 | 56.2 | 7 | 1 |  |
| R Ashwin | 2012-2019 | 29 | 57 | 1549.1 | 357 | 4182 | 183 | 7/59 | 13/140 | 22.85 | 2.69 | 50.7 | 19 | 6 | |
| UT Yadav | 2012-2019 | 18 | 36 | 478.5 | 89 | 1478 | 52 | 4/32 | 6/59 | 28.42 | 3.08 | 55.2 | 0 | 0 | |
| PP Ojha | 2010-2013 | 13 | 26 | 741.2 | 186 | 1893 | 61 | 5/45 | 9/165 | 31.03 | 2.55 | 72.9 | 3 | 0 | |
Not including minnows & post 2020 stats because he didn't feature in the Eng demolition job in 2021 at home, on very helpful surfaces!
This if you exclude Ashwin's worst series at home vs Eng in 2012 -
| Primary team India |
| Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa |
| Home or away home venue |
| Start of match date between 1 Jan 2013 and 31 Dec 2019 |
| Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50 |
| Ordered by bowling average (ascending) |
capt_Luffy
International Captain
This is not for Tests, but Tests+ODIs
Have to watch the cricket. Doesn’t hold a card on AshwinThen you've obviously not seen him play in India
Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa Home or away home venue Start of match date between 1 Jan 2010 and 31 Dec 2019 Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50 Ordered by bowling average (ascending)
Player Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 RA Jadeja 2012-2019 24 47 1200.5 341 2657 128 7/48 10/154 20.75 2.21 56.2 7 1 R Ashwin 2012-2019 29 57 1549.1 357 4182 183 7/59 13/140 22.85 2.69 50.7 19 6 UT Yadav 2012-2019 18 36 478.5 89 1478 52 4/32 6/59 28.42 3.08 55.2 0 0 PP Ojha 2010-2013 13 26 741.2 186 1893 61 5/45 9/165 31.03 2.55 72.9 3 0
Not including minnows & post 2020 stats because he didn't feature in the Eng demolition job in 2021 at home, on very helpful surfaces!
This if you exclude Ashwin's worst series at home vs Eng in 2012 -
Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa Home or away home venue Start of match date between 1 Jan 2013 and 31 Dec 2019 Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50 Ordered by bowling average (ascending)
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Tests+ ODIs Kohli should be above Gavaskar, cause Kohli’s the third best test bat of his era and in the top 3-4 for ODIs ever. Gavaskar is not even a country great let alone ATVG in ODIs. That drags him down a little
capt_Luffy
International Captain
It's like 75% Tests, 25% ODIs.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Even with that probably. Cause Gavaskar more or less scores a zero on the latter. Atleast above Kapil. Kohli is closer to Kapil in tests than the other way around in ODIs.
capt_Luffy
International Captain
Kapil is also an ODI ATG easily imo...... And well, on revision Gavaskar's ODI stats aren't really bad. An average of 36 at 62 SR was above average for the era; atleast better than I expected from him (admittedly my expectations were pretty low for that 36*).
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Wow getting 2 of the fab four 8 times. What a bowler
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Yes Kapil is an ODI ATG Kohli is closer to him in tests(minimal gap), rather than in ODIs(Kapil slightly misses out of my top 10, Kohli is top 6-7).
capt_Luffy
International Captain
Yeah, but Tests are 3x important and due to the ODI gap not being much huge..... It's close. Some other day I might go the opposite way.
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Laxman below Ganguly. I'm going to throw up.