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Sehwag vs Jadeja

Better test cricketer?


  • Total voters
    26

Xix2565

International Regular
Jadeja is a second strong bowler. Ashwin wins matches. Jadeja is support.
They both win matches, only difference is that Ashwin is the better bowler while Jadeja is the better batter. But to say Jadeja doesn't win matches is to be blind and dumb. If you aren't either of those things, then you can feel free to retract that statement.
 

ma1978

International Debutant
They both win matches, only difference is that Ashwin is the better bowler while Jadeja is the better batter. But to say Jadeja doesn't win matches is to be blind and dumb. If you aren't either of those things, then you can feel free to retract that statement.
I think Jadeja is a very valuable cricketer but all of these are relative and you are comparing him to the most valuable bat to ever play in the subcontinent. At no stage would I consider Jadeja in the top three bats or top two bowlers in the team
 

Xix2565

International Regular
I think Jadeja is a very valuable cricketer but all of these are relative and you are comparing him to the most valuable bat to ever play in the subcontinent. At no stage would I consider Jadeja in the top three bats or top two bowlers in the team
I don't think Sehwag is the most valuable bat in the subcontinent, and even then Jadeja's allround contributions are significant enough to be more valuable than pure batting performances. Besides, in Tests bowling matters a lot more and Jadeja is no slouch there.

That you wouldn't consider Jadeja like that just shows how limited your perspective is tbh. Everyone else memes aside can see the value in having a frontline level bowler who can bat in the top six compared to just a great opener.
 

Coronis

International Coach
Ajay Sharma should be in Indian XI’s lets be real. (I would try and make some money with gamblers too if I was that disrespected through my career)
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Let me see....

Sachin

Gavaskar

Dev
Virat
Ashwin
Dravid

Dhoni
Jadeja
Bumrah
Kumble

Ganguly
Chandrasekhar
Rohit
Laxman
Hazare
Mankad
Bedi
Shami
Merchant
Pujara
Pant
Engineer
Gupte
Prasanna
Amarnath

So not Top 10, but definitely top 20 and probably 15.
Rohit is a white ball great, but this seems far far too high for tests. I'd put him behind the likes of Vengsakar and Azharuddin and outside the top 20.
 
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R!TTER

State Regular
At no stage would I consider Jadeja in the top three bats or top two bowlers in the team
Then you've obviously not seen him play in India :dry:

Primary team India
Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa
Home or away home venue
Start of match date between 1 Jan 2010 and 31 Dec 2019
Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50
Ordered by bowling average (ascending)


PlayerSpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveAscendingEconSR510
RA Jadeja2012-201924471200.534126571287/4810/15420.752.2156.271investigate this query
R Ashwin2012-201929571549.135741821837/5913/14022.852.6950.7196investigate this query
UT Yadav2012-20191836478.5891478524/326/5928.423.0855.200investigate this query
PP Ojha2010-20131326741.21861893615/459/16531.032.5572.930investigate this query

Not including minnows & post 2020 stats because he didn't feature in the Eng demolition job in 2021 at home, on very helpful surfaces!

This if you exclude Ashwin's worst series at home vs Eng in 2012 -
Primary team India
Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa
Home or away home venue
Start of match date between 1 Jan 2013 and 31 Dec 2019
Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50
Ordered by bowling average (ascending)


PlayerSpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveAscendingEconSR510
RA Jadeja2013-201923451130.530725401257/4810/15420.322.2454.271investigate this query
R Ashwin2013-201923451223.028932091517/5913/14021.252.6248.5165investigate this query
 

ma1978

International Debutant
Then you've obviously not seen him play in India :dry:

Primary team India
Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa
Home or away home venue
Start of match date between 1 Jan 2010 and 31 Dec 2019
Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50
Ordered by bowling average (ascending)


PlayerSpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveAscendingEconSR510
RA Jadeja2012-201924471200.534126571287/4810/15420.752.2156.271investigate this query
R Ashwin2012-201929571549.135741821837/5913/14022.852.6950.7196investigate this query
UT Yadav2012-20191836478.5891478524/326/5928.423.0855.200investigate this query
PP Ojha2010-20131326741.21861893615/459/16531.032.5572.930investigate this query

Not including minnows & post 2020 stats because he didn't feature in the Eng demolition job in 2021 at home, on very helpful surfaces!

This if you exclude Ashwin's worst series at home vs Eng in 2012 -
Primary team India
Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or South Africa
Home or away home venue
Start of match date between 1 Jan 2013 and 31 Dec 2019
Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50
Ordered by bowling average (ascending)


PlayerSpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveAscendingEconSR510
RA Jadeja2013-201923451130.530725401257/4810/15420.322.2454.271investigate this query
R Ashwin2013-201923451223.028932091517/5913/14021.252.6248.5165investigate this query
Have to watch the cricket. Doesn’t hold a card on Ashwin
 

HouHsiaoHsien

International Debutant
This is not for Tests, but Tests+ODIs
Tests+ ODIs Kohli should be above Gavaskar, cause Kohli’s the third best test bat of his era and in the top 3-4 for ODIs ever. Gavaskar is not even a country great let alone ATVG in ODIs. That drags him down a little
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Tests+ ODIs Kohli should be above Gavaskar, cause Kohli’s the third best test bat of his era and in the top 3-4 for ODIs ever. Gavaskar is not even a country great let alone ATVG in ODIs. That drags him down a little
It's like 75% Tests, 25% ODIs.
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Even with that probably. Cause Gavaskar more or less scores a zero on the latter. Atleast above Kapil. Kohli is closer to Kapil in tests than the other way around in ODIs.
Kapil is also an ODI ATG easily imo...... And well, on revision Gavaskar's ODI stats aren't really bad. An average of 36 at 62 SR was above average for the era; atleast better than I expected from him (admittedly my expectations were pretty low for that 36*).
 

PlayerComparisons

International Vice-Captain
Top 5 batsmen Jadeja has dismissed the most in Tests :

1.Angelo Mathews - 8 times
2.Joe Root - 8 times
3.Steven Smith - 8 times
4.Moeen Ali - 7 times
5.Alastair Cook - 7 times

Bar Moeen Ali these are all very good to great batsmen , a sign of a great bowler.
Wow getting 2 of the fab four 8 times. What a bowler
 

HouHsiaoHsien

International Debutant
Kapil is also an ODI ATG easily imo...... And well, on revision Gavaskar's ODI stats aren't really bad. An average of 36 at 62 SR was above average for the era; atleast better than I expected from him (admittedly my expectations were pretty low for that 36*).
Yes Kapil is an ODI ATG Kohli is closer to him in tests(minimal gap), rather than in ODIs(Kapil slightly misses out of my top 10, Kohli is top 6-7).
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Yes Kapil is an ODI ATG Kohli is closer to him in tests(minimal gap), rather than in ODIs(Kapil slightly misses out of my top 10, Kohli is top 6-7).
Yeah, but Tests are 3x important and due to the ODI gap not being much huge..... It's close. Some other day I might go the opposite way.
 

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