Is Bumrah the best cricketer India has ever produced?

[Daemon]

fraser mcguirk most likely to hurt indian bowling attack

more talented clearly than any of the bats coming through the system like sangha or whoever

he will suck for sure in eng/sa/nz but he is worth a go at home

Lmao would love it if they played JFM in the tests. What an atrocious decision that would be. Classic Shri.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Why are talking about Sangha too lol

Barely keeps a spot for NSW when they were the weakest team in the comp

edit: wasn't he actually dropped?

 

[h_hurricane]

Bumrah has actually performed in Test matches against opposition of reasonable strength, unlike Bond

more like India's Ryan Harris

Unironically though, Bumrah has more overseas wickets than Harris' home and away put together.

Another interesting stat is that Bumrah already has more overseas matches and wickets than Lillee. Also closing in on Roberts and Garner in that aspect.

 

[ankitj]

I know he's had a lot of injuries, but I'm actually surprised Bumrah has played as much cricket as he has with that abbreviated run up and his action. Glad he has though, he's one of my favourites.

Yes he has definitely been on the ground more than I thought he would be. There was a stat that he has bowled more deliveries in test cricket after Ashwin in last few years for India.

 

[ankitj]

Most overs bowled for India since 2018 when Bumrah made his test debut:

Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

 

[GirthQuake]

I like the diversion of this thread to AUSIND tests later this year.

What even is going to be the likely Indian XI?

Jaiswal
Rohit
Gill
Kohli
KL
Pant
Jadeja
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Siraj

Rohit has no patience to last beyond 50 balls at the crease. Kohli is beyond done and I predict a horror tour for him.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I like the diversion of this thread to AUSIND tests later this year.

What even is going to be the likely Indian XI?

Jaiswal
Rohit
Gill
Kohli
KL
Pant
Jadeja
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Siraj

Rohit has no patience to last beyond 50 balls at the crease. Kohli is beyond done and I predict a horror tour for him.

ATG username

 

[honestbharani]

How has me agreeing with an obvious wisecrack at Bond's expense turned into an actual Bond v Bumrah discussion. Y'all BumrahBois gotta chill.

Pretty sure that is the last thing TJB expected, to be called a BumraBoi

 

[Socerer 01]

I know he's had a lot of injuries, but I'm actually surprised Bumrah has played as much cricket as he has with that abbreviated run up and his action. Glad he has though, he's one of my favourites.

he hasnt had a lot of injuries tbh that arent niggles or the minor ones most pick up

he had one long injury layoff and was rushed back from it that forced him into an extended layoff again, on either side of that he has been remarkably fit and consistent despite his action looking so ungainly on the eyes

 

[Socerer 01]

Most overs bowled for India since 2018 when Bumrah made his test debut:

Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

everytime i post this or something related to this for Bumrah people resort to ad hominem insults like the redditor a few pages ago or completely ignore it and go on yapping about something else, wonder why

 

[Socerer 01]

I like the diversion of this thread to AUSIND tests later this year.

What even is going to be the likely Indian XI?

Jaiswal
Rohit
Gill
Kohli
KL
Pant
Jadeja
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Siraj

Rohit has no patience to last beyond 50 balls at the crease. Kohli is beyond done and I predict a horror tour for him.

Rohit in his last test innings faced 162 balls

 

[ma1978]

Nah, am not the Gambhiring type, despite coining the phrase. Usman struggles against genuine pace; Smith can handle most anything but opening with him, while courageous, has weakened a strength to try to strengthen a weakness and exposes your best player to the new rock. Marnus has been junk for 18 months now, Green is still a lot more miss than hit and I just mentioned my worries re Marsh. Head's gonna Head which means he will be rocks and diamonds too. Carey hs shown he can bat a bit but he's not at the level Pant is.

Would much prefer someone at Shield level to lift their game enough to warrant selection, though I genuinely can't see anyone doing it unless they go completely left field with a McJerk/ Caleb Jewell moment and give them a licence. I suppose they could open with Head but that's essentially the Smith move being repeated.

Sorry mate, no touring side is a favourite in Aus. I agree they have a decent shot but if they win, it’s against the odds. Aus is that good at home

 

[silentstriker]

Nah, am not the Gambhiring type, despite coining the phrase. Usman struggles against genuine pace; Smith can handle most anything but opening with him, while courageous, has weakened a strength to try to strengthen a weakness and exposes your best player to the new rock. Marnus has been junk for 18 months now, Green is still a lot more miss than hit and I just mentioned my worries re Marsh. Head's gonna Head which means he will be rocks and diamonds too. Carey hs shown he can bat a bit but he's not at the level Pant is.

Would much prefer someone at Shield level to lift their game enough to warrant selection, though I genuinely can't see anyone doing it unless they go completely left field with a McJerk/ Caleb Jewell moment and give them a licence. I suppose they could open with Head but that's essentially the Smith move being repeated.

Gambhir might actually be on that tour, if the rumors are to be believed.

 

[silentstriker]

I like the diversion of this thread to AUSIND tests later this year.

What even is going to be the likely Indian XI?

Jaiswal
Rohit
Gill
Kohli
KL
Pant
Jadeja
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Siraj

Rohit has no patience to last beyond 50 balls at the crease. Kohli is beyond done and I predict a horror tour for him.

Surely you have to play Ashwin if you play two spinners.

 

[sledger]

Obviously joke threads resulting in people getting really bent out of shape, especially over issues that everyone participating is more or less in agreement on (i.e., Bumrah being quite good), are one of my favourite things.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Bumrah's action makes its own twisted logic. It's incredibly fine-tuned and shows no discernible variation in form even over the fifteen odd overs he's called on to bowl in a day in Tests. Maybe it's one of those things that just works * for him * from a biomechanical pov because of its repeatability, the amount of time he's put into honing it, and the dislocated-ness of his own body. Seen that right shoulder shrug he does walking back after each delivery? Get the feeling he could pack himself into a can of tuna if he wanted to.

 

[reyrey]

Yes he has definitely been on the ground more than I thought he would be. There was a stat that he has bowled more deliveries in test cricket after Ashwin in last few years for India.

Not really. India have played 61 Tests since Bumrahs debut. He has only played in 59% of them. Only a tard would try argue that playing 59% of games was a good sign of longevity.

The stats of the 5 other guys at the top include one guy who basically retired (hasn't been selected) 3 years ago, one that made his debut 3 years after Bumrah and 2 spinners where only one will play in most away Tests.

 

[sledger]

Only a tard would try argue that playing 59% of games was a good sign of longevity.

Wow.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Oof, missed that. Good post overall.

 

[centurymaker]

Might even skip the last 2 given India will likely be 3-0 down already with nothing to play for

Perth, Adelaide Day night, Brisbane.

Yeah India could be 3 down before even getting to MCG and SCG.