Debate thread for 2024 Ranking of batsmen poll

[capt_Luffy]

Is he really good enough for be making this list? Don’t know much about him but the guy does only average 39

At a time when most others averaged sub 30, only Clem Hill is comparable with him from that era. You can't really assign everything to just stats, especially pre WWI. His peer ratings was on par with basically anyone to ever play. Trumper getting ranked any lower is a travesty imo.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

At a time when most others averaged sub 30, only Clem Hill is comparable with him from that era. You can't really assign everything to just stats, especially pre WWI. His peer ratings was on par with basically anyone to ever play. Trumper getting ranked any lower is a travesty imo.

Fair enough, I don’t know much about that era

 

[Socerer 01]

Hate the reverse scoops but don’t have anything against him lol

bro you’re consistently dissing on him

 

[Socerer 01]

At a time when most others averaged sub 30, only Clem Hill is comparable with him from that era. You can't really assign everything to just stats, especially pre WWI. His peer ratings was on par with basically anyone to ever play. Trumper getting ranked any lower is a travesty imo.

wasnt the myth around Trumper debunked by many in another thread

 

[Line and Length]

not sure what @PlayerComparisons has against Root out of all players

Burgey is the most anti-Root poster.

 

[capt_Luffy]

wasnt the myth around Trumper debunked by many in another thread

That Trumper was one of best openers? Kinda yes. That Trumper was one of the greatest batsman (The greatest Test batsman pre Jack Hobbs)? No. Because he is just that.

 

[capt_Luffy]

My rants on Trumper aren't enough. I need a @peterhrt article, please.....

 

[ankitj]

I am furious that Williamson has been ranked over AB de Villiers. How can that be justified?

 

[ma1978]

Kane Williamson is the Ravichandran Ashwin of batsmen. Discuss.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

I am furious that Williamson has been ranked over AB de Villiers. How can that be justified?

Scored way more runs in NZ than de Villiers.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I am furious that Williamson has been ranked over AB de Villiers. How can that be justified?

One bats 3 behind iffy openers
and averages 55 with THIRTY TWO 100s in 100 tests and carries his team while the other sat behind G Smith, Amla, and Kallis, (all of whom did more heavy lifting) and averaged over 4 runs less, and scored TWENTY TWO hundreds in 114 tests.

There are several extra openers plus quite a few mobs ahead of ABDV.

 

[ankitj]

Damn Williamson averages 55

 

[ataraxia]

Half of CW rating Walcott and Weekes ahead of Kane is utterly batshit lol.

 

[centurymaker]

Damn Williamson averages 55

He's the Jayawardene of this era. His record is quite lopsided.

 

[ankitj]

I am struggling to hold the fact that Williamson averages 55 in my head. Smith is averaging 57 currently. There's barely anything between those 2 averages.

 

[CricAddict]

I am struggling to hold the fact that Williamson averages 55 in my head. Smith is averaging 57 currently. There's barely anything between those 2 averages.

He averages 55 as a fact. Not just in your head.

 

[centurymaker]

One bats 3 behind iffy openers
and averages 55 with THIRTY TWO 100s in 100 tests and carries his team while the other sat behind G Smith, Amla, and Kallis, (all of whom did more heavy lifting) and averaged over 4 runs less, and scored TWENTY TWO hundreds in 114 tests.

There are several extra openers plus quite a few mobs ahead of ABDV.

Out of his 100 tests, he's played exactly 50 tests vs Aus, Ind, Eng and SA (top 4 teams)

But he averages just 38.91 from 50 tests against these top teams.

Only 11 of his 32 hundreds have come in these 50 tests.

 

[centurymaker]

Kane is a wonderful guy and so has been rated a lot higher based on his perceptions rather than actual quality output. IMO both Root and Kohli are slightly better and have better records.

 

[howitzer]

Out of his 100 tests, he's played exactly 50 tests vs Aus, Ind, Eng and SA (top 4 teams)

But he averages just 38.91 from 50 tests against these top teams.

Only 11 of his 32 hundreds have come in these 50 tests.

Yeah he both gets most of his big scores against weaker sides and is a htb. That's a bad combination.

 

[honestbharani]

KW is the Sangakkara to the Lara, Sachin, Ponting trio of Smith, Root, Virat.