Do SC Pacers Deserve More Credit For Home Performances?

[Slifer]

Maybe from now on we should just compare bowlers on common ground. For example in a Wasim vs Ambrose ignore Wasim's home since that was harder and ignore Ambrose's since his was easier. Compare them away to Eng, NZ, Australia, RSA etc.

 

[Slifer]

For my fellow SC posters who are hesitant about cutting the averages of your pacers, please remember there is nothing to be shy about. This isnt Affirmative Action. You are merely claiming what is rightfully theirs.

Lol now we know you're trolling....

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

I totally disagree on this. The skill set required to master SENA and SC are different; but SC ones are more difficult. Had Kapil had been English, I don't doubt at all that his record would had improved.

Not sure about this.

 

[subshakerz]

His actual record in England is 13 tests averaging 39 and striking at 78. I'm curious to know to what extent you think his record would improve??

Kapil would adapt.

 

[subshakerz]

Not sure about this.

If SC was easier we would have more pacers with better averages.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

I don't think it works like that. It's very situational for every bowler imo. Should we really cut points for Shami and Umesh, when they both dominated other pacers in SC and relatively sucked away in SENA (especially Umesh)?

That’s the same point i’m making bro m. Since Kapil sucked in Eng and did well in India, can’t give him extra points against Broad

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yes we should because they dominated other pacers in SC.

Yeah, but so has done Rabada in South Africa....

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Kapil would adapt.

And instead have a bad record in SC. Can’t have best of both worlds

 

[capt_Luffy]

That’s the same point i’m making bro m. Since Kapil sucked in Eng and did well in India, can’t give him extra points against Broad

I think the case here is quite different. Lillee sucked quite hard in his limited SC matches, do we cut points for that??

 

[Slifer]

Kapil would adapt.

That's not an answer. Improve from 39 to what??

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

If SC was easier we would have more pacers with better averages.

Fair enough

 

[capt_Luffy]

And instead have a bad record in SC. Can’t have best of both worlds

And no one will give much of a damn about it then.

 

[subshakerz]

Yeah, but so has done Rabada in South Africa....

On greentops, not spinning wickets.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

I think the case here is quite different. Lillee sucked quite hard in his limited SC matches, do we cut points for that??

We should.

 

[capt_Luffy]

His actual record in England is 13 tests averaging 39 and striking at 78. I'm curious to know to what extent you think his record would improve??

How do you think Lillee you had done if he was born in Pakistan?? Or Trueman in West Indies?? Or Warne in India???

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

And no one will give much of a damn about it then.

They should

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

How do you think Lillee you had done if he was born in Pakistan?? Or Trueman in West Indies?? Or Warne in India???

Who knows? Their style and approach to bowling would be completely different

 

[subshakerz]

And instead have a bad record in SC. Can’t have best of both worlds

And still be hailed as an English great like Broad is.

 

[Sunil1z]

I think the case here is quite different. Lillee sucked quite hard in his limited SC matches, do we cut points for that??

Yes . No one rates him in top 5 fast bowlers .

 

[Sunil1z]

And still be hailed as an English great like Broad is.

But Kapil is also considered Indian great