thierry henry
International Coach
Oh wait y’all already said all that
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*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread
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Immenso
International Vice-Captain
On the U19s
Only one century and one fifty among the entire team, over 5 games. Tells the story that the batting was the problem.
While the seam bowling was pretty good. 3 of the front line seamers averaging under 20 with the ball:
On the domestic thread. Someone pointed out after the team was selected that only 1 of the top 10 run-scorers from the domestic U19 tournament made the team. And in fact 2 of the specialist bats selected averaged sub-20 in the domestic tournament (as well as in the world cup)
The team was largely selected after the previous years U17 tournament. With only Nelson forcing his way in from the U19 tournament (and also eventually Foulkes as an injury replacement).
I don't want to get down on the kids at all. Every single one of them made their YouthODI debut during this tournament.
If you go to this page in cricinfo: https://www.espncricinfo.com/team/n...ters-2560/match-schedule-fixtures-and-results
and then click on the dropdown for the other teams:
and look at their recent results for the last year, you'll see the wealth of experience some of the other teams have already got - before they are put under the spotlight of live televised Youth world cup.
E.g. Bangladesh. In the previous 8 months before the fixtures disappear off the page. Have had the Asia U19 championships, a Quad tournament in India, a bi-lateral with SAF U19s etc
Only one century and one fifty among the entire team, over 5 games. Tells the story that the batting was the problem.
While the seam bowling was pretty good. 3 of the front line seamers averaging under 20 with the ball:
On the domestic thread. Someone pointed out after the team was selected that only 1 of the top 10 run-scorers from the domestic U19 tournament made the team. And in fact 2 of the specialist bats selected averaged sub-20 in the domestic tournament (as well as in the world cup)
The team was largely selected after the previous years U17 tournament. With only Nelson forcing his way in from the U19 tournament (and also eventually Foulkes as an injury replacement).
I don't want to get down on the kids at all. Every single one of them made their YouthODI debut during this tournament.
If you go to this page in cricinfo: https://www.espncricinfo.com/team/n...ters-2560/match-schedule-fixtures-and-results
and then click on the dropdown for the other teams:
and look at their recent results for the last year, you'll see the wealth of experience some of the other teams have already got - before they are put under the spotlight of live televised Youth world cup.
E.g. Bangladesh. In the previous 8 months before the fixtures disappear off the page. Have had the Asia U19 championships, a Quad tournament in India, a bi-lateral with SAF U19s etc
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Immenso
International Vice-Captain
To put some perspective on it. How the U19s should just be the start of a journey, not a defining moment.
Will O'Rourke looks now primed and ready to make his test debut aged 22.
4 years ago he was in the U19s.
He looked the best potential pace bowler from the domestic tournament from the streams. If not the statisically dominant.
But at U19 international level, he was pretty un-penetrative. Mono-skilled (in-swinger) to go with his good for that age pace. 5 matches, 2 wickets, bowling average of 70.
Will O'Rourke looks now primed and ready to make his test debut aged 22.
4 years ago he was in the U19s.
He looked the best potential pace bowler from the domestic tournament from the streams. If not the statisically dominant.
But at U19 international level, he was pretty un-penetrative. Mono-skilled (in-swinger) to go with his good for that age pace. 5 matches, 2 wickets, bowling average of 70.
Immenso
International Vice-Captain
Several years ago (E.g. the Ravindra and Allen cycle). NZC entered the U19s into the domestic Provincial A tournament, as a prudently cost-effective alternative to sending them on costly international bi-laterals.
What no longer exists? Because of prudent cost-effective measures? The Provincial A tournament.
What no longer exists? Because of prudent cost-effective measures? The Provincial A tournament.
Immenso
International Vice-Captain
To leave it on a positive note. 3 of the current U19 team are young enough to return in 2 years time.
And looking at this year's domestic tournament, as referenced earlier, of those top 10 runs scorers not selected. 3 of them are young enough to play in 2 years time.
And looking at this year's domestic tournament, as referenced earlier, of those top 10 runs scorers not selected. 3 of them are young enough to play in 2 years time.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
thierry henry
International Coach
Conway is not technically perfect, and the way he is sometimes described as either a nurdler or a stylist/technician has sometimes struck me as inaccurate - but the below still seems like a very weird description of his batting:Stuff
www.stuff.co.nz
The one eyed out in force in the comment as well
"Conway has never been a batter you’d used to illustrate an old MCC coaching manual. Even at his prolific run-gathering best, he’s been substance over style.
There’s not a laconic grace to his batting; it’s instead bustle and belligerence, intertwined with the desire to not let the opposing bowlers gain an ascendancy - and it’s worked brilliantly."
thierry henry
International Coach
It actually sounds like a pretty good description of Mitchell (not that he's entirely unaesthetic either) that's ended up in the wrong article.
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ironically probably a coaching manual on "how to do batting good".
jcas0167
International Regular
This seems like a more accurate description of his style.
Devon Conway is more than just a Test ace – he’s an all-format star
Devon Conway lit up the opening fixture of the Super 12 stage with a sumptuous knock. It is time his Twenty20 credentials are talked about more often, and more glowingly, thinks Shashwat Kumar.
wisden.com
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
This is the worst Mortal Kombat ever.
Chubb
International Regular
Ellis shouldn't play for Aus again after tanking a game for Hobart because he couldn't be arsed running two off the last ball of the match. And David's attitude and fielding were a disgrace basically the entire season. Aus should be rewarding performance in the Big Bash not whatever the hell Big Time Timmy Jim thought he was doing.
Flem274*
123/5
There's a lot happening in this image but they've put the most important part sideways.