GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
If only someone had constantly been saying to everyone that we should only worry about games being dead when they actually are
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The Points Table/Standings
- Thread starter SillyCowCorner1
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Victor Ian
International Coach
This was a well strategized loss by NZ. I think they are best suited to upset the Indian juggernaut in the semis. And Australia are probably best suited to make South Africa fear the choke in the semis. That said, South Africa really have been something else this world cup.
RossTaylorsBox
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Thinking about these NRR scenarios and how much you should lose by is such a dumb mentality, just beat Pakistan.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Why?
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
If SA beat India and win their other games the Saffas will finish top.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
NZ might not even be favs going into the Pakistan game so have to also consider other possibility of qualifying thru NRR in case things go pear shaped.
NZ had lost three games in a row in the 2019 WC too and qualified over Pakistan only on superior NRR. Both had finished with 5 wins each.
So this is a very relevant conversation. And there are uncanny similarities to 2019 so far.
RossTaylorsBox
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Nah, you should try and think about how to win the game first. It hasn't even started yet.
TheJediBrah
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It's interesting though. Hypothetically imagine a scenario where it was the last game that would decide the finals placings, NZ v Pakistan and Pakistan bat first and make 350. Now say if NZ win they make it, but Pakistan have to win by a certain margin to make it. Potentially you could have a situation where NZ need 351 to win the match but only need, say 260, to lose but still make the finals on NRR.
Is the right call to go for the 351 and potentially get bowled out for 180 or play it safer and chase the 260, which should give you the best chance of making it.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Incorrect - now that NZ have failed at the respectable and competitive approach to qualifying for the semi-finals, I hope we lose to Pakistan, lose to Sri Lanka, Pakistan choke in their other match and we make the semi-finals by 0.01 NRR differential. Then we pull a performance absolutely out of our arses to beat India and mankad 8 Australian batsmen to win the final.
#SpiritOfAntiCricket
Athlai
Not Terrible
Victor Ian
International Coach
Hey man! Don't **** up my India fear.
Cruxdude
International Debutant
Remember South Africa trying to do something similar in the 2007 T20 WC and end up getting knocked out
Victor Ian
International Coach
Always go for the win.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Anything except for making sure you get 260 is idiotic and should result in sackings if they don’t go for that over a win. Assuming it’s a mathematical certainty and not relying on other factors or things, in which case if there is the slightest doubt, you should go for the win.
TheJediBrah
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We have to assume the it's a certainty and we don't have South African team management doing the calculations
I tend to agree. I can imagine the team getting crucified if they missed out on making the finals in this way.
IIRC something a bit similar happened in the 2001/02 Tri Series between Aus/SA/NZ. SA wanted to play NZ in the finals other than Aus so in their final group game SA did just what they had to do in order to get NZ through rather than beat Australia. Now they may not have been able to chase the target anyway but the end result was that SA got to play NZ in the finals which they won easily
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I mean the team mgmt should. Fans can think whatever they want no?
fewer weapons. India almost never loses to NZ in India. The record is near impeccable:
ankitj
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They have only had one proper thrashing.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
India have almost made up the massive NRR differential with South Africa. It's just 60 to 70 runs now.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
India can even afford to lose to SA next and can make up the NRR in the last group game vs Netherlands to finish 1st in the table.
In fact, (although India won't do this and shouldn't) but it might be a good underhand strategy to rest key players and lose to SA and then decide in the final group game of the WC vs Netherlands where you want to finish in the table!
India can choose to finish 1st by winning handsomely vs Netherlands or choose to finish 2nd by winning less handsomely. This way India can literally pick their opponent for the semi final. Ofcourse India won't do this. But just hypothetically speaking.
In fact, (although India won't do this and shouldn't) but it might be a good underhand strategy to rest key players and lose to SA and then decide in the final group game of the WC vs Netherlands where you want to finish in the table!
India can choose to finish 1st by winning handsomely vs Netherlands or choose to finish 2nd by winning less handsomely. This way India can literally pick their opponent for the semi final. Ofcourse India won't do this. But just hypothetically speaking.
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