Offical Rugby League Thread

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Yeah fully agree. We need more Queensland teams but Gold Coast was never a good choice. Great place but professional sport isn't for every city. Ipswich would probably make more sense.

It’s the organisations not the city

 

[Prince EWS]

It’s the organisations not the city

I know you live there but I don't think they've just coincidentally had like 20 bad organisations in a row.

 

[Tart]

I think it’s both.
it’s not the right city for it, and also they’ve coincidentally had like 20 bad organisations in a row.

 

[the big bambino]

He was inconsistent last year but this year he was ruthless. Comp wide he was top 5 for offloads and tackle busts, probably the most assists and tries of any forward(as separate stats, if you combine those into one stat he's probably double the forward in second place) and all in a team that finished bottom 4.

Like if he's playing for Penrith he's Kikau on steroids.

Yet Penrith let Kikau loose. Probably because he wasn't worth what he's asking and overall he's better than Fifita. Fifita's had his best year and good on him but he's not top class. He'd be good off the bench in rep footy against a tired defence but would you even pick him in the first place against the talent available? Look who Penrith have - Leota, JFH, Martin, Yeo ... There's a reason Penrith have dominated the last 4 years. They don't have room for inconsistent players like Fifita has been up until now. You'd be mad to swap any one for him.

 

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I know you live there but I don't think they've just coincidentally had like 20 bad organisations in a row.

Miami is home to some of America’s most successful sporting franchises and it’s just a big GC

What’s more the lifestyle here is no different to Cronulla, Manly, Newcastle etc

Gold Coast sporting franchises simply have a loooong history of mismanagement

Compare the approach taken by GWS to the Suns since their entry into the competition at the same time & it’s no surprise that only the former has been successful

 

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Yet Penrith let Kikau loose. Probably because he wasn't worth what he's asking and overall he's better than Fifita. Fifita's had his best year and good on him but he's not top class. He'd be good off the bench in rep footy against a tired defence but would you even pick him in the first place against the talent available? Look who Penrith have - Leota, JFH, Martin, Yeo ... There's a reason Penrith have dominated the last 4 years. They don't have room for inconsistent players like Fifita has been up until now. You'd be mad to swap any one for him.

Fifita is 23 and an Origin regular

You’d do it in a heartbeat if salaries weren’t a consideration

 

[Tart]

Yet Penrith let Kikau loose. Probably because he wasn't worth what he's asking and overall he's better than Fifita. Fifita's had his best year and good on him but he's not top class. He'd be good off the bench in rep footy against a tired defence but would you even pick him in the first place against the talent available? Look who Penrith have - Leota, JFH, Martin, Yeo ... There's a reason Penrith have dominated the last 4 years. They don't have room for inconsistent players like Fifita has been up until now. You'd be mad to swap any one for him.

Fifita > Kikau as an idividual.
Kikau just looked better because he was on a great team.

Dave is probably never going to shake the inconsistent tag, but this was his best & most consistent year and he was ****ing great.

As for fitting him into Penrith line up, sure you wouldn't swap him for those you listed, mainly because most of them play a different position, but show me someone that would take Scott Sorensen over David Fifita and I'll show you a liar.

 

[Kraken]

Fifita > Kikau as an idividual.
Kikau just looked better because he was on a great team.

Dave is probably never going to shake the inconsistent tag, but this was his best & most consistent year and he was ****ing great.

As for fitting him into Penrith line up, sure you wouldn't swap him for those you listed, mainly because most of them play a different position, but show me someone that would take Scott Sorensen over David Fifita and I'll show you a liar.

haha of course you would take Fifita over Sorensen. However the better comparison is would you take Fifita over Martin, which I could see why some would, but I definitely wouldn’t imo

 

[the big bambino]

Fifita > Kikau as an idividual.
Kikau just looked better because he was on a great team.

Dave is probably never going to shake the inconsistent tag, but this was his best & most consistent year and he was ****ing great.

As for fitting him into Penrith line up, sure you wouldn't swap him for those you listed, mainly because most of them play a different position, but show me someone that would take Scott Sorensen over David Fifita and I'll show you a liar.

Maybe they realise you can't get Fifita on Sorenson's wage and the comparison is with those I've listed. Fifita wants too much money for what he offers. Meaning he's over rated.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Been enjoying reading someone claiming Walsh was the better fullback in the GF (on a Facebook NRL group of course). A key piece of this puzzle is asking which made mistakes that contributed to their team losing? I don't think that player is Dylan Edwards.

I assume the poster is from QLD, but still. It's quite a take, especially when claiming Edwards is "essentially Glen Lazarus at fullback".

 

[Prince EWS]

I do think Walsh is better than Edwards but the grand final is a truly horrible piece of supporting evidence for that

He had a shocker.

 

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Yeah, basically a couple of brilliant moments doesn’t outweigh a hole heap of terrible stuff which cost his team dearly

 

[Gnske]

Saturday and Sunday combined just made it an awful weekend to be from QLD.

I still can't believe the Broncos bottled that. Who knows what Walsh and Riki were doing on that last Cleary try.

 

[Son Of Coco]

I do think Walsh is better than Edwards but the grand final is a truly horrible piece of supporting evidence for that

He had a shocker.

Walsh is definitely better in attack but he needs to sort out some of the defensive stuff. Maybe he was a bit nervous on Sunday and that led to some of the errors he made. He's only 20, so he'll certainly have some more grand finals in him and will probably tear one up.

 

[Burgey]

Saturday and Sunday combined just made it an awful weekend to be from QLD.

I still can't believe the Broncos bottled that. Who knows what Walsh and Riki were doing on that last Cleary try.

The image of Walsh grasping at thin air as Cleary waltzed past him to score the winner is a thing of beauty, hopefully it haunts his fragile ego as Hunt's mistake in the GF v the Cowboys did for so many years. The kid's brain works a lot slower than his legs.

I think at the end of the day you had a club which has been through a lot and struggled for long periods having a great deal more pride and passion when it counted than a made-for-tv, manufactured franchise which has been gifted a virtual Origin squad every year since 1988. The Broncos (and the Drizzle) are everything that's bad about premiership footy in Australia.

 

[Burgey]

If you think Brisbane are heartbroken reports suggest Parra are signing Morgan Harper. The only outside back in the NRL whose defense makes Waqa Blake seem like peak Chris Mortimer.

 

[Shady Slim]

What’s more the lifestyle here is no different to Cronulla, Manly, Newcastle etc

yes it is

gc people are older than your average cronulla racist, more racist than your average manly old, and older and more racist than your average novocastrian

 

[Tart]

yes it is

gc people are older than your average cronulla racist, more racist than your average manly old, and older and more racist than your average novocastrian

This..... is perfect
This is one of the best summations of GC I've read.

 

[social]

Actually it’s not & is ancient history

“Brisbane” goes from northern NSW in the south to west of Ipswich and halfway to the Sunshine Coast in the north with no physical barriers in between

Might as well conclude that Penrith isn’t part of Sydney for all it’s worth

Anyway, fun fact

Cronulla racists are older than GC statistical area racists and it’s because the Gold Coast encompasses several thousand square kilometres

 

[social]

Anyway, back to rugby league

@pews is absolutely correct about Ipswich having a team

The place is like Penrith, one of the country’s fastest growing areas and rugby league heartland

The Dolphins should also have been made to build a stadium before granted entry & the government would have chucked money at it

Brisbane has the former ANZ stadium on that side of town and it’s a massive expanse of land

Sunshine Coast should be next