Draft ideas/scheduling thread

[Himannv]

For the avoidance of doubt this isn't me trying to call anyone out for not getting involved, I can completely understand people might have other things that they want to spend time doing, it was more just curiosity as to whether I was an outlier in research/pick time.

I don't think you're an outlier - Some do lots of research and some just come online and pick.

 

[Krypto]

For the avoidance of doubt this isn't me trying to call anyone out for not getting involved, I can completely understand people might have other things that they want to spend time doing, it was more just curiosity as to whether I was an outlier in research/pick time.

I am incredibly new to this however I use spreadsheets. Also 4 websites that provide certain statistics etc. as quick reference when you going off the cuff or using general and personnel knowledge .What i have found challenging is moving between 3 devices and sharing using relevant data between the three devices especially my phone.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I normally start a big (reusable) spreadsheet with ~1000 players and usual stats on it, as well as how i rate them all. Then use filters to match the criteria to work out a list close enough to work with. So a bit of work before the draft, but then just marking off players and picking guys near the top of list during, so not much time during....

Seriously?? Wow, I'm impressed

 

[Line and Length]

I tend to list 4 or 5 options as my turn approaches in drafts. With chain type drafts I list options for either end of a chain.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I basically think what roles I want to fill (elite quick, allrounder, opening bat, keeper etc) and when and then see who is a good option. I have most thoughts in my head then do a few statsguru checks to check.

 

[honestbharani]

I actually avoided a draft as it seemed to involve more work than "pick best player to add to your side within given criteria"

 

[CricAddict]

I sometimes try to avoid drafts when it is based too much on luck and less on strategy.

I don't prefer the voting system too but it is the best we've got and have to go with it.

 

[Krypto]

I sometimes try to avoid drafts when it is based too much on luck and less on strategy.

I don't prefer the voting system too but it is the best we've got and have to go with it.

I want to create a draft at one point when I'm really settled that speaks to players like me that like the numbers with the winners not determine on vote however on averages haven't worked out the particulars yet and its an evolving taught however the winner determined in this way . *Batting averages of entire 11 divided by 11 multiplied by ten* minus * 5 bowler averages combined divided by 5 multiplied by ten* highest score wins .(I am also thinking of a way to do this in a versus format where two teams face eachother and the winner detemined in that manner) Also thinking of some complex rules like career average isn't taken for batsman rather the average of the batting position they are drafted into etc .

Voting is nice however as a game i would like an alternative based on numbers , this isn't perfect same as voting however it is fun (At least for me it is)

 

[Himannv]

We could just train an AI tool to sim some matches and provide an outcome based on some formulas.

 

[CricAddict]

I want to create a draft at one point when I'm really settled that speaks to players like me that like the numbers with the winners not determine on vote however on averages haven't worked out the particulars yet and its an evolving taught however the winner determined in this way . *Batting averages of entire 11 divided by 11 multiplied by ten* minus * 5 bowler averages combined divided by 5 multiplied by ten* highest score wins .(I am also thinking of a way to do this in a versus format where two teams face eachother and the winner detemined in that manner) Also thinking of some complex rules like career average isn't taken for batsman rather the average of the batting position they are drafted into etc .

Voting is nice however as a game i would like an alternative based on numbers , this isn't perfect same as voting however it is fun (At least for me it is)

Most of the drafters here are kings in statsguru. So, if you are going by any stats based methodology to determine the winners and state the methodology beforehand, the teams will then be taken just accordingly by the drafters.

 

[Krypto]

Most of the drafters here are kings in statsguru. So, if you are going by any stats based methodology to determine the winners and state the methodology beforehand, the teams will then be taken just accordingly by the drafters.

I still think it's a fun alternative and the idea of involving a AI tool is viable, will take time to get a draft idea that will work and be fun but still think it is interesting.

 

[Teuton]

A handful of posters have used simulations in the past. These are more interesting, but no doubt time consuming, than a pure stats based scoring system which drafters will just exploit, that kind of takes the fun out of seeing differences in opinion.

 

[CricAddict]

I have so far to my knowledge never taken any match fixer in any of my draft teams. Just out of curiosity, do any of you negatively weigh if you see a match fixer in any draft team or just go purely by their cricket skills when you vote?

 

[ataraxia]

Probably means they were better than their stats tbh

 

[Krypto]

I have so far to my knowledge never taken any match fixer in any of my draft teams. Just out of curiosity, do any of you negatively weigh if you see a match fixer in any draft team or just go purely by their cricket skills when you vote?

This for me is loaded question, also I haven't voted and will rarely affect how I valuate a team however there are some players I just dislike and this will affect how I preceice a team some of them is due to their illegal activities and some due to other reasons. Mostly how I will valuate a team is on ballance for a lack of better wording. Batsman batting is positions they are known for or successful in having a fielding unit that is spread not just close fielders etc, balanced bowling for conditions, cricketers that isn't just home ground heroes (all surface players) and this list for me is endless and more how I view the game in general.

 

[shortpitched713]

Going to do a very small Vanilla draft, will be first come, first serve and hopefully very quick.

Don't post "in" here, as it will be in the thread, once I am ready.

 

[Himannv]

Don't post "in" here

In.

 

[CricAddict]

Don't post "in" here

"out"

 

[mr_mister]

Can someone tag me in the next chain pick style draft. Since the drafts moved to the sub forum I keep missing out on registering in time

 

[JOJOXI]

Will probably be looking to run a similar Test version of the ODI Country/Average Combo draft recently ran by Teuton. Will probably set up a thread on Tuesday with plans to start Friday/Saturday.

To summarise you'd have to pick 1 player for each batting/bowling average category and you would have to have at least 10 nations represented. (Was going to say max 1 player per nation but perhaps a touch too restrictive.)


Regarding the batting/bowling averages this isn't completely definitive yet but they are likely to be the following categories

6 batting categories - 51+ Bat, 47-50,99 Bat, 43-46.99 Bat, 39-42.99 Bat, 35-38.99 Bat, 30-34.99 Bat
4 bowling categories - 0-22.99 Bowl, 23-26.99 Bowl, 27-30.99 Bowl, 31+ Bowl
1 'other' category

The 6 players picked on their batting average would have to bat in the top 7 and the 4 bowlers picked on their bowling average will have to bat at 7-11. As long as these criteria are met the 1 other pick can bat anywhere in the order.

The other pick can be anyone and have any average/s as long as they allow you to continue to adhere to nationality restrictions. A 5th bowler, 7th batter, specialist wicketkeeper, all-rounder. You will need to let me know who you are picking for the 'other' category especially at the point when such a pick would otherwise be ineligible.


Wicketkeepers selected have to have kept in at least half of their Test matches. Here is a list of everyone that has kept - the list has their numbers of matches as keeper and matches as fielder. As long as their matches as keeper is the same or higher as their matches as fielder they are eligible to be selected as a keeper. Those not eligible to be selected as keepers can still be selected as specialist bats.