also gavaskar SR bumped from mid 40s in his first half of odi career to mid 60s in his second half. It can be evaluated he did have room for improvement and consideration for winning more than drawing had he had the situationships of good lineups around him like dravid.
It was against Hazlewood and Starc. Cummins didn't play. Sydney is a favourable track for him but still an impressive performance at that age. Rate Newlands 2013 higher.
Gavaskar getting his ODI strike rate up to 62 isn't much of a point against Dravid.
There answered it yourself. He indeed went missing, look at his drawn record, this guy couldnt lose but couldnt win either. Dude just sucked up pressure (good) without releasing it back (bad). His impact in winning games was horrible which is something to consider in atg lineups rather than just stats. You mention him being bigger than sachin in away wins and all that, then tell me why doesnt he get the same respect as sachin? Why does sachin seem so miles away from him? Because at least sachin tried, this dravid guy kept holding india back from going for a win, rather boring draws.
itactually is given how much dravid was told to be removed from the odi team by Indian fans throughout his career. He made runs, but never of impact.
I said he didn't go missing. his record in matches won is one of dravid's biggest achievements.
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The bowling averages for spin around the world outside of Asia for one lol. Unless you think averaging 30+ as a spinner is sonehow good or you're one of those morons who thinks player quality declines across eras.
barring warne and murali (and why they are legends) every era has had 30+ for spinners except 70s where it was 45.
Yes, and you seem to feel Jadeja isn't as hood as others, which is fine but debatable. I'm merely making the case that he adds more balance than an extra pacer.
Is this supposed to say something or what? How does that engage with my point?
you brought this point up trying to defend jadejas average outside asia, memory hazed?
Are you alright up there? I stated that to say that Jadeja's away bowling record isn't as bad as people here want to believe because he's largely played in conditions where all spinners don't do well generally. So do you have something to say for that?
hes done horrible compared to other spinners outside asia though?
Apart from England which other country has ATG openers?
Jadeja
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No??? If you filter for 30 Test wickets as a spinner outside of Asia in Jadeja's career he's only behind Maharaj (who plays in SA which has had some turning wickets when he and Harmer paired up), Lyon (home in Australia), Ashwin and Swann's last few years (home in England). That's not horrible lol.
Can you make an actual argument like an adult?
No. I'm asking you to name non-English ATG openers.