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All time Asian-XI

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Socerer 01

International Captain
Kenneth Viljoen said:
Fierce comment battle going on here , why can't we just admit that these guys we name will never play with or against each other , besides you'd pick a side according to the conditions so the XI would always change ..Example you wouldn't pick Warne against an all time Indian batting line up he'd get smashed to pieces , you wouldn't pick Murali on a tour to Australia especially if Daryl Hair is the umpire .
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look who is talking
 
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number11

State Regular
An alternative XI (no p/cw caveat), missing some obvious names.

Gavaskar
Mohammed
Tendulkar
Miandad
Sanga +
Mankad
Imran Khan *
Shakib AH
Dev
Wasim Akram
Murali

Loads of AR, loads of flexibility. That side would be good for all conditions. 5 great bats. 2 specialist openers.
 
Adorable Asshole

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
If Gilchrist can be a keeper in Aussie AT XI then why can't Sanga can be a keeper in Asian XI?
Sanga is a better keep than Gilchrist.
 
Adorable Asshole

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
I have changed my team a bit.

Gavaskar
Dravid
Younis
Sachin
Miandad
Sangakkara +
Jadeja
Imran (c)
Wasim
Murali
Waqar

12th man : Kapil Dev
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Adorable Asshole said:
I have changed my team a bit.

Gavaskar
Dravid
Younis
Sachin
Miandad
Sangakkara +
Jadeja
Imran (c)
Wasim
Murali
Waqar

12th man : Kapil Dev
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Ugh, Jadeja. Can you imagine playing him when you are facing ROW XI with Lara, Sobers, Marshall, Lillee, etc?

He is only justified if you are playing in the SC. But then, you would need Sehwag also.

Test cricket favors specialists.

Never compromise the level of specialty skill in your ATG side for more utility. It will be brutally exposed.

Imran and Wasim already give you enough batting depth to justify five bowlers. So play your five best bowlers, which are Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Murali and Kumble.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
So these are the confirmed picks that we should all agree upon:

Sachin, Gavaskar, Sanga, Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Murali

So the questions to settle are:

- Who is Gavaskar's opening partner?

- Who gets in from Dravid/Younis/Miandad?

- Sanga is keeper or another keeper bat?

- Second spinner or just four bowlers?
 
Kenneth Viljoen

Kenneth Viljoen

International Regular
ataraxia said:
@Migara who's the better pure keeper?
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Sangakkara , so many challenges for a keeper in a Sri Lankan team with the unorthodox nature of their bowlers and especially on the subcontinent , ..Muralitharan producing numerous varieties from his unique action , then there was the leg breaks of Chandana , mystery spin of Ajantha Mendis ..Standing up to Chaminda Vaas , the round arm action of Malinga ...The unpredictable nature of fast bowlers like Dilhara Fernando and Nissanka .. Sangakkara dealt with it expertly with the gloves .
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Kenneth Viljoen said:
Sangakkara , so many challenges for a keeper in a Sri Lankan team with the unorthodox nature of their bowlers and especially on the subcontinent , ..Muralitharan producing numerous varieties from his unique action , then there was the leg breaks of Chandana , mystery spin of Ajantha Mendis ..Standing up to Chaminda Vaas , the round arm action of Malinga ...The unpredictable nature of fast bowlers like Dilhara Fernando and Nissanka .. Sangakkara dealt with it expertly with the gloves .
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Gilly was not only safe but he also was superbly acrobatic, creating catches out of nowhere in a way Sanga could not. He had to stretch when it came to the waywardness of express speedsters like Lee and Tait.

Plus he had the unenviable task of following up with Healy in building a dynamic with Warne, and did that excellently. His stumping speed was fantastic.
 
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Silver Line

U19 Debutant
subshakerz said:
So these are the confirmed picks that we should all agree upon:

Sachin, Gavaskar, Sanga, Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Murali

So the questions to settle are:

- Who is Gavaskar's opening partner?

- Who gets in from Dravid/Younis/Miandad?

- Sanga is keeper or another keeper bat?

- Second spinner or just four bowlers?
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I think in the context of atg we look at pitches ‘neutralised for both pace and spin’. An hence why we pick the better cricketer.

anwar and sehwag had issues, Hanif is the safest bet and as i had pointed out, from age 23 onwards he averaged 52, aka his true representative stat of him as a batter.

sanga as keeper, as the iconic or legendary part is missing from other asian test keepers. And adding a specialist wk who cant bat that well, will make the team look less appealing or threatning on paper.

statistically Sanga from 2001-2007 averaged 43 with the gloves. How many batsman keepers even average past that?He basically converted from atg keeper to atg batsman. Otherwise as a keeper he is absoluetely a solid pick. An in a lineup of batting legends we can compromise for a random specialist keeper

Shakib deserves alot of credit, monstrous time span with a nothing support. A 40 bat avg with 30 bowl avg.His limited over career further highlights he was no fraud, who required conditions to operate well in test. For context kapil who is hailed legendary, with a better team had same bowling averages but his batting was half the average of shakib. Insane!

miandad has like a 18 year span batting and yet avgs 52.5, filter his peak and it’ll only go higher. From debut to ‘89 (13 years) he averaged 57.

for context Steve Smith the greatest test bat since bradman has played for 12 years and looks due retirement in the next 2 years. Miandad peak ive selected is smiths whole career
Miandad is in for sure. Dravid’s peak numbers of 57 was like 6years bruh.

i think dravid is great and all, but Younis’s numbers career being nearly all away games is just insane.
In fact, Younis Khan from 2004-2015 (11 years) averaged 60 with the bat with f all home games.

also at no.5 Miandad has the stats and experience backing him (54). With Younis having the stats backing him (48), while Dravid went at an average of (38).


  1. Hanif Mohammad
  2. Sunil Gavaskar
  3. Younis Khan
  4. Sachin Tendulkar
  5. Javed Miandad
  6. Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
  7. Shakib al Hasan
  8. Imran Khan (c)
  9. Wasim Akram
  10. Waqar Younis
  11. Muttiah Muralitharan
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Silver Line said:
I think in the context of atg we look at pitches ‘neutralised for both pace and spin’. An hence why we pick the better cricketer.

anwar and sehwag had issues, Hanif is the safest bet and as i had pointed out, from age 23 onwards he averaged 52, aka his true representative stat of him as a batter.

sanga as keeper, as the iconic or legendary part is missing from other asian test keepers. And adding a specialist wk who cant bat that well, will make the team look less appealing or threatning on paper.

statistically Sanga from 2001-2007 averaged 43 with the gloves. How many batsman keepers even average past that?He basically converted from atg keeper to atg batsman. Otherwise as a keeper he is absoluetely a solid pick. An in a lineup of batting legends we can compromise for a random specialist keeper

Shakib deserves alot of credit, monstrous time span with a nothing support. A 40 bat avg with 30 bowl avg.His limited over career further highlights he was no fraud, who required conditions to operate well in test. For context kapil who is hailed legendary, with a better team had same bowling averages but his batting was half the average of shakib. Insane!

miandad has like a 18 year span batting and yet avgs 52.5, filter his peak and it’ll only go higher. From debut to ‘89 (13 years) he averaged 57.

for context Steve Smith the greatest test bat since bradman has played for 12 years and looks due retirement in the next 2 years. Miandad peak ive selected is smiths whole career
Miandad is in for sure. Dravid’s peak numbers of 57 was like 6years bruh.

i think dravid is great and all, but Younis’s numbers career being nearly all away games is just insane.
In fact, Younis Khan from 2004-2015 (11 years) averaged 60 with the bat with f all home games.

also at no.5 Miandad has the stats and experience backing him (54). With Younis having the stats backing him (48), while Dravid went at an average of (38).


  1. Hanif Mohammad
  2. Sunil Gavaskar
  3. Younis Khan
  4. Sachin Tendulkar
  5. Javed Miandad
  6. Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
  7. Shakib al Hasan
  8. Imran Khan (c)
  9. Wasim Akram
  10. Waqar Younis
  11. Muttiah Muralitharan
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Plenty of debatable choices here.

Hanif, respectfully, doesn't have the output to justify selection. And no we can't ignore his younger years especially since he didn't play that many tests. So between Sehwag and Anwar, Sehwag has the better career even tho I consider Anwar a more quality bat. We have to give it to Sehwag.

Dravid's peak is between 2002 to 2006 and he averaged 68 in that. And in terms of peer opinion, I don't think there is a bowler who would rate Younis ahead of Dravid. It's close but Dravid.

Miandad is Pakistan's best bat agreed.

Shakib? He is just occupying space. If you are facing an ATG XI, the best bet is five worldclass bowling options and having extra lower order bat strength is less priority. So you either pick another pacer or Kumble, the next best spinner.
 
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