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All time Asian-XI

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Silver Line

U19 Debutant
Xix2565 said:
No??? If you filter for 30 Test wickets as a spinner outside of Asia in Jadeja's career he's only behind Maharaj (who plays in SA which has had some turning wickets when he and Harmer paired up), Lyon (home in Australia), Ashwin and Swann's last few years (home in England). That's not horrible lol.
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He has the worst SR for a spinner in that filter and one of the worst averages.

suprisingly Ashwin has even worse stats than Jadeja outside Asia 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

look at Moeen Ali in that list mate, thats what their outside asia career looks the most comparable to 💀

and if youre gonna tell me Moeen Ali was this gun spinner of his time then i dont know what to tell you
 
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Xix2565

International Regular
Silver Line said:
He has the worst SR for a spinner in that filter and one of the worst averages.

suprisingly Ashwin has even worse stats than Jadeja outside Asia 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

look at Moeen Ali in that list mate, thats what their outside asia career looks the most comparable to 💀

and if youre gonna tell me Moeen Ali was this gun spinner of his time then i dont know what to tell you
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I mean what exactly do you want lol? I'm pointing to conditions here but you want to take it as an irrefutable sign of quality. Do you have a brain in there or what?
 
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U19 Debutant
Xix2565 said:
I mean what exactly do you want lol? I'm pointing to conditions here but you want to take it as an irrefutable sign of quality. Do you have a brain in there or what?
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wdym what do i want? I said jadeja is ineffective outside asia and you bring up a list showing he is really is ineffective alongside ashwin.

look at the others Maharaj, Swann, Lyon etc. they have such nice stats outside asia.

then go look at overseas spinners stats in the last 10 years in india, SO many of thenjust casually averaging in the mid 20s.

joke of a spinning legend this duo. As bowlers Jadeja is mediocre and Ashwin is Mid. No need to overrate their bowling after inflating it at home. but as all rounders they are a very good asset
 
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Xix2565

International Regular
Silver Line said:
wdym what do i want? I said jadeja is ineffective outside asia and you bring up a list showing he is really is ineffective alongside ashwin.

look at the others Maharaj, Swann, Lyon etc. they have such nice stats outside asia.

then go look at overseas spinners stats in the last 10 years in india, SO many of thenjust casually averaging in the mid 20s.

joke of a spinning legend this duo. As bowlers Jadeja is mediocre and Ashwin is Mid. No need to overrate their bowling after inflating it at home. but as all rounders they are a very good asset
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I said that it overall doesn't hurt his case as much as you want to deny it lol. Actually make a point instead of idiotic claims please.
 
Kenneth Viljoen

Kenneth Viljoen

International Regular
Fierce comment battle going on here , why can't we just admit that these guys we name will never play with or against each other , besides you'd pick a side according to the conditions so the XI would always change ..Example you wouldn't pick Warne against an all time Indian batting line up he'd get smashed to pieces , you wouldn't pick Murali on a tour to Australia especially if Daryl Hair is the umpire .
 
trundler

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Fuller Pilch said:
Gavaskar, Barry Richards, Graeme Smith, Trumper, Morris, Greenidge
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Graeme Smith and Morris aren't better than Hayden. Smith may be considered better but not by so much that he's ATG and Hayden isn't. Morris is just worse. He was part of the Invincibles but he had a short career and was mediocre for half of that. Struggled against England once the got some good pacers. If the charge against Hayden is that he's an FTB and struggled against great bowlers then Morris can't possibly be considered better than him.
 
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Fuller Pilch

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trundler said:
Graeme Smith and Morris aren't better than Hayden. Smith may be considered better but not by so much that he's ATG and Hayden isn't. Morris is just worse. He was part of the Invincibles but he had a short career and was mediocre for half of that. Struggled against England once the got some good pacers. If the current against Hayden is that he's an FTB and struggled against great bowlers then Morris can't possibly be considered better than him.
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Bradman rated Richards and Morris the 2 best openers, and considering he played against Hobbs, Hutton, and Sutcliffe they must've been top quality.
 
BazBall21

BazBall21

International Captain
Fuller Pilch said:
Bradman rated Richards and Morris the 2 best openers, and considering he played against Hobbs, Hutton, and Sutcliffe they must've been top quality.
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Yeah but that might be quite subjective. Think Simpson and Morris are both objectively overrated. Prefer Lawry.
 
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U19 Debutant
Honestly reckon Woodfull and Ponsford were the answer to Hobbs and Hutton, but their career numbers got sabotaged with bodyline tactics
 
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