Should Langer get D R O P P E D as Australian coach?

[Line and Length]

Saved a bit of face by resigning.

 

[Spikey]

I can't even fathom how they could offer him a contract. it seems they probably did and I hope details leak out. But given he was pushed to the side, how could they come up with a contract length and monetary value? And then...what about the assistant coaches, all 3 of them could walk into domestic/bbl jobs, and McDonald and DiVo will likely be asked if they want to apply for the England job. They were clearly doing a lot of the job, so what would their contracts have looked like if Langer did get re-signed?

It was unsustainable position. It was either get rid of Langer or return to the pre-2021 structure with the removal of one or two assistants and all that

 

[Shady Slim]

Who replaces him is important. I never liked Langer so I'm happy he's gone, but I worry about what the replacement will do with so many tough away tours. The Sri Lanka series should be a non-negotiable win but it's very easy to lose playing the wrong style cricket, for example. Important to keep the Pakistan series at least close, too.

yeah this is huge

who ever they pick, unless he's a clear bozo, they have to back through some potentially rough tours, give him some rope etc

 

[Spikey]

the first question in the interview process is "if a player is eating a sandwich in the dug out, what do you do"

 

[Gnske]

good night sweet prince

 

[Kraken]

Who’s the fav to replace him? McDonald?

 

[social]

Players obviously didn’t endorse him so that’s all she wrote

 

[quincywagstaff]

I think this will cause bigger fallout amongst general public who follow cricket mildly as opposed to more passionate fans.

Those who prob only watch Test cricket for the Ashes would be baffled that he's been forced out after such a dominant performance.

But for those who followed more closely, after the India loss last year and fallout a few months afterwards it isn't a terrible surprise.

In any case, CA's handling of this with the leaking of stories to ex-employees now working in the media and inability to make a decision yesterday just reeks of incompetence.

 

[Red]

They should throw everything at Dizzy imo

 

[tony p]

Players now have no one to blame now if it goes pear shaped.
Can't blame " Langer is too tough, too.... Whatever"
New coach is going to have to be good results wise, particularly after the last few months.

 

[Spikey]

there needs to be a doco about the fallout from the doco

In the last 13 months there were leaks about mood swings, toasted sandwiches, arguments over digital content, and even how much money the coach received for the Amazon documentary compared to the players.

On the day Langer found out the players had negotiated $41,000 more than him to appear in the documentary, he changed plans late and without warning.

On the whiteboard in Melbourne, a light fielding session was scheduled. It was supposed to be nothing more than a top-up on the MCG turf.

Langer, having just discovered he’d undervalued himself despite being the centrepiece of the production, took half-a-dozen players and torched them with a gruelling fitness and fielding session in the heat.

Those involved suspect the unplanned session was payback, though they will never be sure. At least two players vomited. They weren’t angry at being made to work hard, rather they were suspect it was the temperamental coach letting off steam.

This was Langer’s problem in a nutshell. As a player, he would have relished a difficult fielding routine, with running, burpees and balls hit so hard he would end the day with calluses.

But not all players – rightly or wrongly – appreciate the same focus on intense work, especially when it comes out of the blue.

There is a myth circulating that the players’ main problem with Langer was his intensity. This does not explain the full story. Their primary objection to his style revolved around his mood swings.

MORRIS: The brutal $41K revenge act that exposed Justin Langer’s biggest flaw

MORRIS: The brutal $41K revenge act that exposed Justin Langer’s biggest flaw

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Lol owned

 

[Spikey]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1489784712671416323

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[Daemon]

The casual fans seem to have really bought into the ex-players’ narrative

 

[Spikey]

well yeah, that's why CA was always in a bad position. They never had a hope of winning the PR battle unless they lost the Ashes or Langer flew off the handle on live TV or something

 

[honestbharani]

there needs to be a doco about the fallout from the doco

MORRIS: The brutal $41K revenge act that exposed Justin Langer’s biggest flaw

MORRIS: The brutal $41K revenge act that exposed Justin Langer’s biggest flaw

www.foxsports.com.au

Wow. My sympathy has shifted to the players side fully here. Coz a lot of what we see him speak and even behave like in public adds up to the kind of moodiness this article refers to. Cant blame the players for feeling they need someone more emotionally stable and neutral as their coach.

 

[SteveNZ]

I think this will cause bigger fallout amongst general public who follow cricket mildly as opposed to more passionate fans.

Those who prob only watch Test cricket for the Ashes would be baffled that he's been forced out after such a dominant performance.

But for those who followed more closely, after the India loss last year and fallout a few months afterwards it isn't a terrible surprise.

In any case, CA's handling of this with the leaking of stories to ex-employees now working in the media and inability to make a decision yesterday just reeks of incompetence.

I had a post written like this the other day - the difference in viewpoint between the vitriol about it on facebook (ie media organisations: Fox, SEN etc) and posters on here is poles apart. I'm really intrigued by why that is, or moreso why Australian posters on here think that is? Because I don't think that would be a thing anywhere else in the world. It seems like your Joe average general public cricketer watcher in Australia is actually really uneducated about the game. Not sure why that it is.

To anyone who consistently follows the Australian cricket team, it's pretty clear Langer's reign was untenable and that the players cannot cope with his intensity anymore. I laugh at facebook posters saying that he should go to England and 'stick it in CA's face' because holy ****, Langer might actually lose an Ashes series 6-0 in charge of them.

 

[Daemon]

the players cannot cope with his intensity anymore

Apparently it’s not the intensity - more the mood swings. I can imagine it’d be a bit like treading on eggshells when around him. I actually had a boss exactly like that and it was awful.

 

[Spark]

Apparently it’s not the intensity - more the mood swings. I can imagine it’d be a bit like treading on eggshells when around him. I actually had a boss exactly like that and it was awful.

Yeah I personally don’t mind intense, serious, demanding etc; erratic and inconsistent can go do one though.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Apparently it’s not the intensity - more the mood swings. I can imagine it’d be a bit like treading on eggshells when around him. I actually had a boss exactly like that and it was awful.

You sound like a snowflake.