Indian Cricket Dhaba

[ankitj]

I'm not convinced they have a choice

 

[_00_deathscar]

I'm not convinced they have a choice

In the sense that they can’t have both the money and be able to reject it, yes…

It’s simple. Turn down the money. I don’t see anyone doing it.

 

[honestbharani]

The answer always was in BCCI actually doing the sensible thing and scheduling more games at the same time and getting IPL done in a shorter window. It would have helped us play out the 5th test after a few days, and also given them a bit more of a break before the T20 WC.

 

[Niall]

Its nearly 2022 and in a test series between the 2 best test sides in the world, Saha is going to keep wicket, absolute desolation personified.

The other dude who smashed it in the IPL Bharat please. Thank you.

Rahul- Gill- Che- Agarwal -Rahane.(yuck)- Bharat
Jadeja-Ashwin-Axar- Siraj- Yadav

Ishant a little unlucky, but Yadav and Siraj are gun.

Could argue about the order where the three spinners bat also I suppose.

 

[Nintendo]

Its nearly 2022 and in a test series between the 2 best test sides in the world, Saha is going to keep wicket, absolute desolation personified.

The other dude who smashed it in the IPL Bharat please. Thank you.

Rahul- Gill- Che- Agarwal -Rahane.(yuck)- Bharat
Jadeja-Ashwin-Axar- Siraj- Yadav

Ishant a little unlucky, but Yadav and Siraj are gun.

Could argue about the order where the three spinners bat also I suppose.

Bharat is touring SA with the A-team ATM.

 

[honestbharani]

No, Bharat is with the test side I think. And yeah, I would like to see below line up.

Rahul
Mayank - cant seperate besties
Puji
Gill
Jadeja
Rahane
Bharat (wk)
Ashwin
Axar
Umesh
Ishant/Siraj


I think Siraj needs some break as well and we need Ishant in decent form in RSA. Guy looked totally out of it in England except for couple of innings when he bowled, including the WTC final.

 

[cnerd123]

In the sense that they can’t have both the money and be able to reject it, yes…

It’s simple. Turn down the money. I don’t see anyone doing it.

I don't think that's the only cost of skipping the IPL. You probably end up in the black books of the BCCI admins + franchise owners, which could then impact the opportunities and contracts you get later on in your career. God forbid they all pigeonhole you as a Test Specialist ala Che Pu and you never play in the IPL again. Your earning opportunities through sponsorships might also take a hit if you aren't playing in the IPL.

The players all have such a short window to make a living as a professional athlete, and you never know which game might be your last. Several promising talents have had their careers cut in their prime due to injury or just falling out of form at the wrong time. India especially is such a volatile place to be a professional cricketer - there is so much talent waiting to take your spot, there are so many traps and pitfalls one can fall into. I don't think you can blame them for wanting to cash in as much as they can when they have the chance.

The fault should lie with the BCCI - they make the schedules, they determine the contracts, there is surely a way they can manage things so that their best players are available for the IPL + marquee series. To their credit they do seem to be trying, it's just this time around they've miscalculated things a bit. Have to consider that these are unprecedented times - global pandemic and all that.

I'm sure at some level the players have had a say in this as well - no doubt they want to play as much cricket as possible, and they have probably conveyed as much to coaches/selectors/physios. Not easy to force someone to take a break against their will. But that's what the BCCI should have the balls to do.

 

[ankitj]

I don't think that's the only cost of skipping the IPL. You probably end up in the black books of the BCCI admins + franchise owners, which could then impact the opportunities and contracts you get later on in your career.

Exactly. BCCI has got Indian cricketers by their balls. They risk their cricketing careers if they say anything unflattering about IPL at all. It's curious how none of the cricketers ever say that they are exhausted while playing IPL or that they didn't feel 100% motivated during a particular season of IPL. They say that about other cricket occasionally - they are only human. Somehow this never happens while playing IPL and no one ever skips any season of IPL for personal reasons or fatigue even in midst of a raging pandemic and constant bio-bubbles.

No way did they were all charged up to play IPL in UAE after cutting short all important England test tour. They were herded into the ground by BCCI like sheep. I don't understand why BCCI had to complete the IPL with all 60 matches this year with all the havoc wreaked by the pandemic.

 

[cnerd123]

I don't understand why BCCI had to complete the IPL with all 60 matches this year with all the havoc wreaked by the pandemic.

I think pressure from TV companies + the franchises, all of whom have paid a lot of money and need IPL matches to happen in order to recoup that, is probably the main reason. If the BCCI could just scrap the IPL without incurring financial repercussions and lawsuits they probably would have tbh. They scrapped a whole season of Ranji trophy didn't they.

 

[ankitj]

Haha, every time I ask a rhetorical question you guys answer with all the sincerity that it was money. I know that. I just dislike that approach to cricket. Probably I should not make rhetorical statements with a "why"

 

[cnerd123]

it's the fundamental question - does cricket make money to exist, or does it exist to make money

sadly it seems we're living in the era where the latter is the truth.

 

[honestbharani]

A lot of it could have been avoided had the BCCI been more practical in their approach to the original season of IPL and ocntinued playing in the same city and ensured the integrity of the bubble. Mumbai has 3 or 4 grounds that they could have used, especially with no fans allowed. It started going wrong the moment they decided the caravan model could work.

 

[ankitj]

A lot of it could have been avoided had the BCCI been more practical in their approach to the original season of IPL and ocntinued playing in the same city and ensured the integrity of the bubble. Mumbai has 3 or 4 grounds that they could have used, especially with no fans allowed. It started going wrong the moment they decided the caravan model could work.

Yeah, the air travel could have been avoided. They could also have been more reasonable and said "these are unusual times, we will settle for a shorter IPL". Would have earned some respect from me. But nah, BCCI gonna BCCI.

 

[cnerd123]

Yeah, the air travel could have been avoided. They could also have been more reasonable and said "these are unusual times, we will settle for a shorter IPL". Would have earned some respect from me. But nah, BCCI gonna BCCI.

Haha shorter IPL wouldn't have sat well with the TV Companies and Franchises

Could have definitely tried a tighter bubble, but I reckon the way COVID was spreading in India at the time that it was basically inevitable that there would have been an outbreak. Any reason why the IPL wasn't played entirely in the UAE to start with?

 

[sunilz]

?

 

[_00_deathscar]

I don't think that's the only cost of skipping the IPL. You probably end up in the black books of the BCCI admins + franchise owners, which could then impact the opportunities and contracts you get later on in your career. God forbid they all pigeonhole you as a Test Specialist ala Che Pu and you never play in the IPL again. Your earning opportunities through sponsorships might also take a hit if you aren't playing in the IPL.

The players all have such a short window to make a living as a professional athlete, and you never know which game might be your last. Several promising talents have had their careers cut in their prime due to injury or just falling out of form at the wrong time. India especially is such a volatile place to be a professional cricketer - there is so much talent waiting to take your spot, there are so many traps and pitfalls one can fall into. I don't think you can blame them for wanting to cash in as much as they can when they have the chance.

The fault should lie with the BCCI - they make the schedules, they determine the contracts, there is surely a way they can manage things so that their best players are available for the IPL + marquee series. To their credit they do seem to be trying, it's just this time around they've miscalculated things a bit. Have to consider that these are unprecedented times - global pandemic and all that.

I'm sure at some level the players have had a say in this as well - no doubt they want to play as much cricket as possible, and they have probably conveyed as much to coaches/selectors/physios. Not easy to force someone to take a break against their will. But that's what the BCCI should have the balls to do.

That’s all fine for up and coming young players and actual test specialists like ChePu.

The accusation was that players can’t even say no to IPL. They can - they 100% can. The very top level players can. They don’t. They like the $.

Bumrah (especially) and Pant (arguably) are absolute generational talents that are massive to Indian cricket and it’s future. They can tell the BCCI to **** off if they want to and GENUINELY aren’t interested in T20 cricket/IPL and do not wish to partake.
They are interested. and also in the money it brings. You can’t have both.

I sympathise with the scheduling but IPL/T20 is basically funding all other cricket now so hey ho…

 

[harsh.ag]

I just want better rotation of players is all. Talk of so much depth so why not make use of it. Esp since the test batting can easily be replaced given their **** form.

 

[honestbharani]

I just want better rotation of players is all. Talk of so much depth so why not make use of it. Esp since the test batting can easily be replaced given their **** form.

Isn't that what they have tried to do here?

 

[harsh.ag]

Isn't that what they have tried to do here?

Yeah, but, you know, ideally before the burnout forces you to

 

[sunilz]

Hardik Pandya wears watches of price Rs 5 crore ?

How much has he earnt through IPL ?