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Dhoni v Gilchrist

Dhoni v Gilchrist

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Migara

Migara

International Coach
Spark said:
That's what I'm saying: Gilchrist was the universally unquestioned pick for that spot at the time. It was after that that Dhoni really made his case for greatness.
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Not really. As you see Jayasuriya was almost head to head with Gilchrist as the second opener. With his bowling, fielding and captaincy skills (people forget he has a similar win percentage to Jayawardane, whom regraded as one of the best cricket tacticians around. Jaya was not far behind with his wits on the field), and provides serious or even superior skill set to Gilchrist. It was once Watson and Sharma emerged, Jayasuriya's place was doubted.
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
TheJediBrah said:
Ignore Tests completely and the comparison is a close one, maybe we should just do that to make certain people ITT happy. Because if you include Tests at even a small weighting it's not even close
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Ignore the tests it's a land slide for MSD
Add tests it is lesser, but still a land slide.
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
stephen said:
Other than Tendulkar, name a single ODI opener from Gilchrist's time who was better or equally good?

The fact is that the game in Gilchrist's time was built around having an anchor opener and an aggressive opener. Gilchrist was the best aggressive opener. Tendulkar was the best anchor (mostly because for an anchor he had a very aggressive strike rate).

The game has changed since then and opening has become a lot easier.
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Jayasuriya. Average difference of about half arun and SR difference of 3, easily can be attributed to difficult conditions Jaya played at home.
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
Nintendo said:
Fairly certain that if you translate over era's bevan's sr is very comparable to dhoni's. Bevan could hit boundaries and clear the fench with ease, you don't make a 150 sr 180 against an attack of murali, wasim, kumble and vaas if you can't clear the fence, it was more that his era required him to rely on 1's and 2's with the occasional boundary. Take bevan in a modern context and he would have no trouble adapting.
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No
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Gilchrist is the best test keeper batsman and probably the 2nd best white ball keeper batsman. Dhoni is probably the best white ball keeper batsman and in the top 20-25 test keeper batsmen. Not that close when you think about it.
 
Victor Ian

Victor Ian

International Coach
Gilly earned his stats with a larger proportion on Aussie grounds. I think I once lazily calculated that Aussie grounds are worth 4 less runs per innings. Then there is the uncountable like how many times was he caught on the boundary.

I like dohni, and aside from the occasional troll, I think his captaincy is way undervalued. He was not a tactical genius, but he just seemed to exude calm, that relaxes others in your team so they perform better. He didn't seem to incite divisions in his team. We never got to see Gilchrist enough, but I'd imagine he have been a captain in a similar vein.
 
sunilz

sunilz

International Regular
Victor Ian said:
I like dohni, and aside from the occasional troll, I think his captaincy is way undervalued. He was not a tactical genius, but he just seemed to exude calm, that relaxes others in your team so they perform better. He didn't seem to incite divisions in his team. We never got to see Gilchrist enough, but I'd imagine he have been a captain in a similar vein.
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A small example of above : when India won the CB series in 2008 in Aus , he had asked the team to celebrate in a moderate manner and don't behave like minnows.


During 2011-12 (8-0 horror) , I used to think would player like Dhoni ever captain Australia . Then God gave answer in the form of Tim Paine ? ( worst player to captain Australia? )
 
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