David Warner retirement thread

[SteveNZ]

It does say a bit of his character/maturity that he has to wait to front the media whereas Smith and Bancroft could give convincing apologies/conferences straight away.

Bloody oath it does. What it says is that he has to artificially craft responses because a) he is dumb b) he can't conjure up genuine remorse and sorrow for what he did, nor a decent explanation c) he and CA don't trust what he'll say in the heat of a presser because he might hurl 5 other blokes under the bus.

Anything Warner says in his next presser is horse ****. It's now all scripted, meaningless PR rubbish.

As someone else said, Smith fronted openly and honestly, and earned a **** tonne of respect as a result. And truly fair enough, I respect the hell out of him for it. I feel sorry for him. Not Warner. I only think less of him.

 

[Victor Ian]

I really dislike all of this intellectual superiority going on regarding Warner. Sure he can be a cut but some of you guys...
Anyways, I hope he can come through this as well as the others. Perhaps now he won't be pressured to be a cut and he might become pleasantly quieter.

 

[StephenZA]

I really dislike all of this intellectual superiority going on regarding Warner. Sure he can be a cut but some of you guys...
Anyways, I hope he can come through this as well as the others. Perhaps now he won't be pressured to be a cut and he might become pleasantly quieter.

Fair enough.... but if you behave like a boor, you are going to get treated as such.

 

[Second Spitter]

Warner should consider a stint in baseball..... the level of his fielding is such that he can play an infield position (ideally 3rd but possibly 2nd), which would make him a more viable candidate than Smith or Bancroft (and Pollard for that matter).

I think he has the skillset to hit .240/.320./410 which would make him a middle of the road 3b or above average 2b.

As a rookie he'll be on ~$600K US (league minimum), which would mitigate his losses.

 

[Victor Ian]

Fair enough.... but if you behave like a boor, you are going to get treated as such.

No argument there. i'm just taking umbrage with some comments that paint him as a dullard.
I hate seeing anyone take a big fall... Inexplicably, even a prick. I'm choosing to believe part of that is the fault of this silly 'play hard' culture where they've singled out the player with the best propensity to be an arsehole to up his game. If there was an alternative arsehole or the realisation you don't need one, Warner may have developed a different on field persona. I say blame the culture, not the people taught to exhibit it, but that's probably circular.

 

[GuyFromLancs]

Nah, Warner is Warner. Nearly all the arseholes I've known in my life have been like him.

Short, chippy, confrontation-based, bullying, yet still victimised in their own minds. It's a pathology I recognise very well.

Without getting all clarevoyant, I can tell exactly the kind of person he is just by looking at his face.

I bet he's a nightmare in the field. Kudos to South Africa for giving him a taste of his own. I'd have gone much further myself.

 

[Daemon]

I highly doubt Warner's going to come out swinging or whatever.

He released a little note where he seemed very apologetic. Once he's had time to think things through and talk to a few people, there's no way he'll jeopardize his career any further.

 

[Second Spitter]

Warner should consider a stint in baseball..... the level of his fielding is such that he can play an infield position (ideally 3rd but possibly 2nd), which would make him a more viable candidate than Smith or Bancroft (and Pollard for that matter).

I think he has the skillset to hit .240/.320./410 which would make him an middle of the road 3b or above average 2b.

As a rookie he'll be on ~$600K US (league minimum), which would mitigate his losses.

Further to this, as a LH batter he is more marketable, even more so if he can switch hit (which in cricket he can do against fast medium bowling).

 

[social]

I really dislike all of this intellectual superiority going on regarding Warner. Sure he can be a cut but some of you guys...
Anyways, I hope he can come through this as well as the others. Perhaps now he won't be pressured to be a cut and he might become pleasantly quieter.

As I mentioned earlier, I dont think Warner is stupid

In fact, he almost certainly possesses the rat cunning/street smarts that is necessary to drag himself out of housing commission and into multi-million $ mansions

However, and I'll put this as nicely as I can, he definitely suffers from red mist syndrome where he loses control

For the life of me, I cannot understand a dressing room situation where someone not only thought that it would be ok to suggest taking sandpaper onto a test field but actually convinced somebody to do it

Forget the legality/ethics of it all, the idea is so absurd and so out of kilter with everything relating to the game that you'd have to be a special type of crazy to do it

I expect him to be contrite in his presser today but will not be surprised at all if he appeals as he probably feels that the whole world is against him and might even think that he is the victim

 

[Borges]

I cannot understand a dressing room situation where someone not only thought that it would be ok to suggest taking sandpaper onto a test field but actually convinced somebody to do it

The point is that in a normal dressing room, even if one character came up with such an idea, he should never be able to convince some others to go along and implement the plan,

 

[fredfertang]

ffs man up Warner - I expected better of you

 

[social]

Been coached which is hardly surprising

Might as well have taken the 5th

 

[SteveNZ]

I really dislike all of this intellectual superiority going on regarding Warner. Sure he can be a cut but some of you guys...
Anyways, I hope he can come through this as well as the others. Perhaps now he won't be pressured to be a cut and he might become pleasantly quieter.

Hope you're listening. This is woeful. I don't wish heart break on anyone but he did, iys come back around and sorry but this is PR nonsense. Won't save him much criticism at all

 

[Second Spitter]

whoever shall exalt himself will be humbled, and whoever shall humble himself will be exalted.

 

[Gnske]

That was a press conference out of a parody movie

 

[Johnners]

So basically he's saving it all for his appeal.

 

[Borges]

This is the best that he could have done, with a delayed press conference.

 

[Spark]

Yeah that was really weird, at best.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

That presser was shady as hell

 

[Spark]

He's tweeting it that he's saving it for CA internal processes, fwiw