***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2017/18

[vandem]

Weird, it looks like Wellington have been given permission to play a replacement batsman (Ridley) in the absence of Woodcock. I've heard of that for last minute international call-ups, but this is the first time I've seen it for an injury.

Concussion subs were allowed in Ford Trophy (which then cascades to Super Smash), see rule 18 in the linked pdf.

But don't appear to be in Plunket Shield playing conditions, unless you count the final sub-section of rule 50 REPLACEMENT OF PLAYERS (which is about replacements due to international team priorities) which says:

50.11 Overriding discretion of NZC
Notwithstanding anything contained above, the NZC CEO or his or her nominee retains the overriding discretion to vary the above, should circumstances require in the best interests of NZC and the game of cricket


https://www.nzc.nz/media/10376/ford-trophy-playing-conditions-2017-18-final.pdf

 

[Bahnz]

Interesting. Still seems weird. I'm not entirely sure why a concussion injury should be treated differently to any other match-ending injury.

 

[Prince EWS]

Interesting. Still seems weird. I'm not entirely sure why a concussion injury should be treated differently to any other match-ending injury.

I think the idea is that if they can't be replaced then players will just risk it and play on anyway. Concussions are different from hamstring tears and dislocated shoulders in this way, as concussed players are quite capable of playing on but just risk their lives in doing so.

I don't really agree with the rule but I can see why concussions are looked upon differently.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

It happened with someone last round as well.

 

[Bahnz]

Well, either way it may well have won Welly the shield. Bennett and co now making short work of CD's top order.

 

[Immenso]

Well, either way it may well have won Welly the shield. Bennett and co now making short work of CD's top order.

I think Conway's innings probably broke CD's back won them the shield.
When I saw Papps' dismissal to a shooter I guessed an outright result was coming despite the large first innings scores, either way.

 

[Immenso]

CD have 2 wickets in hand and 8.1 overs remaining.

https://scoring.nzc.nz/livescoring/match4999/scorecard.aspx

8 overs to deny Wellington 12 points.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Surely Bennett to bowl a few at the death ... CD holding on very well.

 

[nzfan]

Touch and go for firebirds. 6 overs to go and 2 wicked to get. Hoping for a firebirds win but I'm always for the young ones. If Felix Murray can see through these overs I'll have no qualms.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Oh they get to play till 6:30 lol.

 

[nzfan]

That's what I thought. As per nzc the overs are up. Still good chance to wrap it up.

 

[SeamUp]

A pair of hundreds for childhood friends Nofal and Conway for Wellington. Think that could secure more regular places in the XI for a while. Still place for Ravindra though.

 

[nzfan]

A pair of hundreds for childhood friends Nofal and Conway for Wellington. Think that could secure more regular places in the XI for a while. Still place for Ravindra though.

No chance for Ravindra. Not with firebirds. Tough luck. I feel for Sears though. The lad from South Africa that played for CD in this game played against Sears and Ravindra three years ago in Bangladesh. He's moved countries and played a First Class game already for CD. Meanwhile Sears isn't even close let alone Ravindra lol. No doubt if Sears was provided enough opportunities he'd have gone well. Too bad for firebirds but I have no sympathy for them.

 

[vandem]

I think Conway's innings probably broke CD's back won them the shield....

Or ...

shall we look back in a fortnight and say that the delayed declaration due to Conway's innings gave CD enough time to escape with a draw and lost them {Wellington] the shield, after CD win their last two games and Wellington stumble?

 

[SeamUp]

No chance for Ravindra. Not with firebirds. Tough luck. I feel for Sears though. The lad from South Africa that played for CD in this game played against Sears and Ravindra three years ago in Bangladesh. He's moved countries and played a First Class game already for CD. Meanwhile Sears isn't even close let alone Ravindra lol. No doubt if Sears was provided enough opportunities he'd have gone well. Too bad for firebirds but I have no sympathy for them.

I respect keeping senior figures but at least one of Papps (39) , Woodcock (36) , Murdoch (35) will have to be pushed out the door. The youngest Murdoch has had the disappointing season.

The future of Ravindra, Conway, Blundell and Nofal doesn't look bad mixed in with a couple of senior senior pro's still doing well.

Not sure on the stats but have Conway and Nofal done enough to be considered for the Wellington team on pure cricketing quality terms and on runs scored at the level below ?

 

[nzfan]

I respect keeping senior figures but at least one of Papps (39) , Woodcock (36) , Murdoch (35) will have to be pushed out the door. The youngest Murdoch has had the disappointing season.

The future of Ravindra, Conway, Blundell and Nofal doesn't look bad mixed in with a couple of senior senior pro's still doing well.

Not sure on the stats but have Conway and Nofal done enough to be considered for the Wellington team on pure cricketing quality terms and on runs scored at the level below ?

Don't reckon they can do much now. Firebirds had good chance to develop the local lads in white ball cricket but missed the opportunity. Blundell should come in for Colson and rightly so. That's about the changes they can afford to make unfortunately.

Nofal hasn't had a great season in club cricket but Conway has been all right. The club lads tell me Ravindra and Sears are way too skilled for club cricket. They are still young but they must be quite delusioned with the setup.

 

[Immenso]

No chance for Ravindra. Not with firebirds. Tough luck. I feel for Sears though. The lad from South Africa that played for CD in this game played against Sears and Ravindra three years ago in Bangladesh. He's moved countries and played a First Class game already for CD. Meanwhile Sears isn't even close let alone Ravindra lol. No doubt if Sears was provided enough opportunities he'd have gone well. Too bad for firebirds but I have no sympathy for them.

Is Ludick a batting allrounder or a bowling all rounder? Trying to figure how he impacts the 2 young CD batting seam all rounders.

Also playing that U19 tournament 3 years ago were Leopard and Clarkson. Also playing in that CD A game someone linked a page back where Ludick got twin centuries were Leopard and Clarkson.

Not playing for the stags are Leopard and Clarkson.

 

[Immenso]

Wellington beckons one of those 2. After Welly used to be so inundated with batting allrounders that Boam spent 5 years as a specialist 8. They now have almost none.

One, or both, need to get out of there.

Although let me be clear. None of them were getting red ball opportunities even before Ludick was selected (Clarkson couldn't bowl). Leopard was getting few opportunities even when naling it in his limited white ball outings.

There's too much depth there. One or both will waste too many years playing little cricket higher than club cricket.

 

[nzfan]

Is Ludick a batting allrounder or a bowling all rounder? Trying to figure how he impacts the 2 young CD batting seam all rounders.

Also playing that U19 tournament 3 years ago were Leopard and Clarkson. Also playing in that CD A game someone linked a page back where Ludick got twin centuries were Leopard and Clarkson.

Not playing for the stags are Leopard and Clarkson.

Supposed to be a batting all rounder. At least cd have both Leopard and Jackson in mix. They've also played few games. Arguably the two Wellington lads have chance in all formats. Particularly with Ravindra who's equally good with bat and ball. They haven't appeared in a single game yet in contrast to any other region.

 

[Flem274*]

Auckland need a bowler with some zip. Sears could move there.

In fairness none of Bennett, van Beek, Newton and McPeake have done anything wrong (they've been quite good) and you couldn't say any of them are club trundlers either and Bennett especially is injury prone. I don't know Sears club performances but he must be close unless he's doing a Weerasundara.

No way will all three top Papps, Woodcock and Murdoch play on into next season. All three are fast approaching real job time and one of them will call time on themselves. Rachin will be straight in and surrounded by experienced players.

CD struggle to find room for allrounders because they already have Bracewell and Ryder. Bruce can roll the arm over in a pinch and the weakest red ball link of the regulars Worker can bowl some left armers and is a domestic limited overs star. Plus it's not like Ludick/Clarkson/Leopard are outbowling Wheeler/Rance/Milne/Tickner/Small

Hay
Worker/Smith
Young (c)
Ryder
Bruce
Cleaver (wk)
Bracewell
Milne
Wheeler
Rance
Ajaz

That's a tricky team to crack for a young allrounder, and sometimes Ross Taylor is available...