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Australian Domestic Season 2017/18

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Sayers doesn't fit the Aussie quick template i.e. not quick or tall enough. Also, he's an unknown quantity outside of playing for SA, never had a County gig, never played much with Aus A and generally led the SA attack so no real idea of how he'd bowl without the new nurry. Nice bloke from a lovely family, top top bowler but there are just more reasons to pick others.
 

stephen

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Sometimes I think Marshall wouldn't make the Aussie team because he doesn't fit the mould.
 

quincywagstaff

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Sayers doesn't fit the Aussie quick template i.e. not quick or tall enough. Also, he's an unknown quantity outside of playing for SA, never had a County gig, never played much with Aus A and generally led the SA attack so no real idea of how he'd bowl without the new nurry. Nice bloke from a lovely family, top top bowler but there are just more reasons to pick others.
I think the pace aspect is the main issue atm; certainly under Lehmann the ethos seems to be that pace and aggression are more highly prized than seamers such as Sayers (doesn't explain how Mennie got a go ahead of him though when he was fit iirc).
 

Prince EWS

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I think the pace aspect is the main issue atm; certainly under Lehmann the ethos seems to be that pace and aggression are more highly prized than seamers such as Sayers (doesn't explain how Mennie got a go ahead of him though when he was fit iirc).
Mennie was great for Australia A just before selection; that got him in.
 

stephen

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I'm not too sure how much can be read into Mennie's sole test. He certainly didn't look good and given Australia's depth he shouldn't get another go but he is probably a better bowler than what he showed in that game. Probably not international class but occasionally someone can surprise. I remember Bollinger looking awful on debut and he was a decent bowler for a while there.
 

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Sayers doesn't fit the Aussie quick template i.e. not quick or tall enough. Also, he's an unknown quantity outside of playing for SA, never had a County gig, never played much with Aus A and generally led the SA attack so no real idea of how he'd bowl without the new nurry. Nice bloke from a lovely family, top top bowler but there are just more reasons to pick others.
The shield pitches are generally a lot more bowler-friendly that the Test pitches, so there is some merit to the line of thinking that Sayers wouldn't be as good in Tests that he is in the Shield
 

stephen

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If we were going to roll out green tops and pick specialists for bowling on them Copeland and Sayers would lead the attack.
 

Midwinter

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I think the pace aspect is the main issue atm; certainly under Lehmann the ethos seems to be that pace and aggression are more highly prized than seamers such as Sayers (doesn't explain how Mennie got a go ahead of him though when he was fit iirc).
Mennie was the leading wicket taker in Shield cricket the previous season.

That was a good reason to pick him !
 

Burgey

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Patto undergoing a spinal fusion. Wonder if he’ll ever bowl fast again. That’s serious surgery.
 

Prince EWS

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Yeah that's some serious ****. Bond had the same surgery and it was regarded as a massive success.. but he still only played eighteen Tests.

It did seem for quite a while that Cummins was the more injury-prone of the two, and that Pattinson had a better chance of having a substantial Test career -- it seems quite the opposite now. Pattinson having a few years on Cummins and still having all those similar injuries at an older age was probably a bit of a tell.
 

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Reid had spinal fusion too, didn't elongate his career by much. But the technology has changed quite a bit since those days, even in the last 5 years there have been some pretty impressive advances. It'll take a while but it may not rule out him being quick again just yet.
 

Gnske

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Excellent decision by WA to rest that broken clock Coulter-Nile for a high-stakes tour match. Useless hackfraud.
 

brockley

International Captain
Looking for a no 7 for NSW,look no further.
We haven't had a decent 7 since Grant Lambert,but that might change.
Darren Sams.
Playing for Canterbury NZ on loan batting at 7 he has scored 49 and 88,first innings he opened the attack and took 3/48 from 25 overs and 9 maidens.
Tomorrow is the last day with Canterbury a chance to win the game.
https://scoring.nzc.nz/livescoring/match4511/scorecard.aspx
Follow on tomorrow and see if he takes a bag.
Copeland,Abbott and O'keefe who's batting has declined as he has got older,have failed to make an impact the last 2/3 years,this could be a chance to blood someone and stick to a decent no 7.
 

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