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***Official*** England in India 2016/17
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Daemon
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England of late tend to give players an extended run and a fair chance of proving themselves. Unless he comes up with some really shocking numbers (which based on the hype I doubt) I'm sure he'll survive the series. Even if averages 5 or whatever and gets dropped he's only 19.
hazsa19
International Regular
Is playing 3 seamers (4 including Stokes) and 2 spinners out of the question? Play to your strengths and all that
hazsa19
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Yeh he would have to reach new levels of atrocious not to get another chance beyond this series, as long as he keeps scoring runs for Lancs. I hope he sees it this way, it might relieve a few of the nerves.
Bahseph
International Debutant
I would like to see them do this.
AndyZaltzHair
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You can only make with what's in front of you. Ballance is a walking wicket but throwing in Hameed just like that does not fit right. Ballance keeping his spot because he's going to play atleast the first test otherwise I dont see why hes even in the squad. Dropping Woakes in place of Jake Ball because in these conditions I feel Jake Ball will do better than Woakes even though you lose some of the strength batting wise. Thing is you cant always rely on your lower batting order to save your *** all the time. Runs got to come from top and middle order if you are going to win the test. Let also the batsmen know that you can't be 3/20 every test.
ImpatientLime
International Regular
if a bowler has got to make room for ball then it's rashid, not woakes.
dilly is just not test quality.
dilly is just not test quality.
mackembhoy
International Regular
Had his best year ever in test cricket and averaged 15 in the UAE. Does Sourav watch cricket?
He also thinks Finn should play cos of of his pace
Jimmy bowls quicker than him these daysHe always struck me as a bit of a self important person. I may be wrong.
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Scaly piscine
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England have just complicated things by not picking the best spinners from County Cricket.
I wouldn't have Rashid anywhere near the team personally. If you have Leach & Moeen then you have what are generally accepted as the best two finger spinners available and you have the left/right arm variation. Where is the difficulty in picking that? Having another spinner after that adds virtually nothing because they're shite (apart from maybe Rayner as he's tall and had a good year).
The decision would then be whether you have 3 or 4 seam bowlers. 4 gives more protection to Stokes.
I wouldn't have Rashid anywhere near the team personally. If you have Leach & Moeen then you have what are generally accepted as the best two finger spinners available and you have the left/right arm variation. Where is the difficulty in picking that? Having another spinner after that adds virtually nothing because they're shite (apart from maybe Rayner as he's tall and had a good year).
The decision would then be whether you have 3 or 4 seam bowlers. 4 gives more protection to Stokes.
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mackembhoy
International Regular
Cos they want people who can bat a bit. It's why Onions got booted out the side. It's why Chris Jordan has played test cricket.
Just pick the best XI and stop pissing about with bits and pieces cricketers. If Leach could score a 50 if he'd have been the first name on the teamsheet.
I like legspinners and want Rashid to do well so I will give him a chance. But Ansari/Batty selections are embarrassing,
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superkingdave
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They keep picking Finn.
Scaly piscine
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Harks back to the old traditional English idea that a finger spinner is a guy who bowls a few quiet overs whilst the seamers rest, maybe chips out a wicket or two and contributes with bat and in the field. Whilst the seamers win the game.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Had his best year ever in test cricket and averaged 15 in the UAE. Does Sourav watch cricket?
He also thinks Finn should play cos of of his pace
He always struck me as a bit of a self important person. I may be wrong.
He is our answer to the Channel 9 commentators,but with more of everything was better in my day.
flibbertyjibber
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He already is compared to the spinners we have on tour.
AndyZaltzHair
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because you make adjustment and try who is best suited in different conditions. For me its between Ball and Woakes for a spot. you can drop rashid/batty and play ball still but moeen and batty/rashid dont give me enough confidence and with stokes around and doing a great job, dont really need additionally 3 seamers. Fully aware of Woakes performance but he does not have enough variation for here and also not have enough experience to cover that up. Ball on the other hand, whatever little I've seen, got plenty of variations and will be very useful.
mackembhoy
International Regular
Cos he's Gus Frasers golden child.
Saker ruined him. I thought he'd refound it against the saffers but alas it's gone. Woakes has overtaken him and wood is the quickest in England now not steven.