***Official*** England in South Africa 2015/16

[Compton]

Wow.

 

[Captain_Cook]

And with a tournament approaching rapidly on the horizon, England shed their limited overs form just in time for matches that actually matter...

 

[Compton]

I think if he got a hattrick Tahir would just implode. I don't think he could handle how chuffed he would be with himself.

 

[wpdavid]

England are trying to outdo every previous collapse. No pragmatism whatsoever. KP would have got a score on this surface.

Garbage, isn't it. Still, it's the way they play, apparently, so that's OK.

 

[Howe_zat]

Jos will save us

 

[Captain_Cook]

I really think Morgan needs to be dropped. We can't carry the captain and he's done **** all.

 

[Burner]

Jeez, guys. It's a t20. How many sides not have a game like this every once in a while in t20s?!

 

[Howe_zat]

People reacting like there is some magic way to bat that will have England win every game without fail is something I'll never get.

When they bat too slowly - bad strategy
When they lose wickets - bad strategy
When yog-sothoth devours spectators - bad strategy

They've won 7 matches in a row going into this.

 

[Howe_zat]

I really think Morgan needs to be dropped. We can't carry the captain and he's done **** all.

you are the worst analyst there is or ever will be

 

[Captain_Cook]

How many sides not have a game like this every once in a while in t20s?!

Three collapses in as many white ball games is why I'm p*ssed.

 

[wpdavid]

People reacting like there is some magic way to bat that will have England win every game without fail is something I'll never get.

When they bat too slowly - bad strategy
When they lose wickets - bad strategy
When yog-sothoth devours spectators - bad strategy

They've won 7 matches in a row going into this.

Fair comment, and I'd have to admit that the 7 in a row in this format had slipped through my radar.
Obviously one or two of us are just looking at out last three innings in any limited overs format and wondering how many few overs we could expect our boys to bat out the lot.

 

[grecian]

People reacting like there is some magic way to bat that will have England win every game without fail is something I'll never get.

When they bat too slowly - bad strategy
When they lose wickets - bad strategy
When yog-sothoth devours spectators - bad strategy

They've won 7 matches in a row going into this.

Slightly different make-up of team though wasn't it, by memory? One more batsman.

Edit perhaps not, I'm only annoyed because of having the douchery of tahir to put up with 4 times, and obviously this bringing up the never-ending KP bp;;ox again.

 

[Captain_Cook]

you are the worst analyst there is or ever will be

Maybe so, yet Morgan hasn't cleared 30 in a game that matters in SA.

 

[wpdavid]

A triumph - they've batted out the 20 overs

 

[Howe_zat]

Not enough. Need to give credit to SA who bowled and caught exceptionally well to keep Buttler quiet as well as pick up wickets throughout.

Think we need to face that Stokes and Moeen in the middle order is a real problem in limited overs, don't think we can ignore that when Billings is availabe.

 

[Howe_zat]

Don't tell me I've had plenty of entertainment ffs

 

[Prince EWS]

Think we need to face that Stokes and Moeen in the middle order is a real problem in limited overs, don't think we can ignore that when Billings is availabe.

Would you straight up drop one of them? I'm not sure the bowling strong enough to really get away with Root being the sixth option.

Dropping Roy for Billings and opening with Moeen avoids that conundrum to an extent I suppose.

 

[grecian]

Would you straight up drop one of them? I'm not sure the bowling strong enough to really get away with Root being the sixth option.

Dropping Roy for Billings and opening with Moeen avoids that conundrum to an extent I suppose.

In 50 over I'd do just that, but I think Roy's ability to get us off to a fast start in T20 is something that's hard to overlook. Just not sure what we do, shame they don't trust Willey up the order.

 

[StephenZA]

Not enough. Need to give credit to SA who bowled and caught exceptionally well to keep Buttler quiet as well as pick up wickets throughout.

Think we need to face that Stokes and Moeen in the middle order is a real problem in limited overs, don't think we can ignore that when Billings is availabe.

Would you straight up drop one of them? I'm not sure the bowling strong enough to really get away with Root being the sixth option.

Dropping Roy for Billings and opening with Moeen avoids that conundrum to an extent I suppose.

I think Eng should open with Root, classy player that can beat the inner ring without trying to hard... and probably hold the innings together to let all the others play with freedom. I think the problem with Stokes is that he is not playing with freedom, he is coming in at 5 having to keep the innings going but nervous to lose his wicket. I would swap Butler and Stokes. Butler can easily play both roles of going after an attack or taking singles... (take this as a SA supporter that's no expert on the English team)

 

[Furball]

I think it's a few factors. This is a big one, but I'd also argue that spinners tend to bowl at easier times in T20 cricket, and (probably most crucially) there are also a disproportionate amount of T20Is played in Asia and the West Indies where spin is a bigger factor.

In the last five years, percentage of matches including at one Test playing nation played in Asia/WI:

T20Is: 62.44%
ODIs: 48.66%
Tests: 48.57%

West Indies, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have all hosted the World T20 in that timeframe as well.