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**Official** Big Bash 2015/16

TheJediBrah

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can barely think of many pinch hitting examples let alone successful ones
doesn't happen as much as it could

also very difficult to monitor or quantify tbh. You could argue it happens most games. eg. Luke Wright, Ludeman etc. opening the batting could arguably be considered "pinch-hitting". They wouldn't bat top 5 in First-class cricket.

Not the same as throwing a Sean Abbott up the order though, but I wouldn't blame his failure in last night's match as indicative. Sean Abbott has just completely forgot how to bat.
 

Stapel

International Regular
Last 3 overs of Thunder innings was the key.
I agree. Especially the last one.

I also felt Cameron White's consecutive boundaries, when he was on 30 from 30, were key. Last match, he lost his wicket at that moment. There's a difference between anchoring the innings and consuming a quarter of all deliveries at a run-a-ball. I think you should not be on 30 from 30 when chasing 180 in a T20. It puts too much pressure on the rest. But good on him, as he got his team out of it himself.

Doesn't make him the right MOTM imho. Bravo's innings was arguably more important. And Bravo bowled 4 tidy overs, taking 2 wickets. And he lost his bat again :) .
 

91Jmay

International Coach
doesn't happen as much as it could

also very difficult to monitor or quantify tbh. You could argue it happens most games. eg. Luke Wright, Ludeman etc. opening the batting could arguably be considered "pinch-hitting". They wouldn't bat top 5 in First-class cricket.

Not the same as throwing a Sean Abbott up the order though, but I wouldn't blame his failure in last night's match as indicative. Sean Abbott has just completely forgot how to bat.
Luke Wright has a first class double hundred and averages 40. Stop embarrassing yourself for once.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
You're the **** calling Luke Wright a pinch hitter. Bloke regularly bats 5 in County Championship and has opened in international cricket. **** me, wind your neck in.
 

TheJediBrah

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You're the **** calling Luke Wright a pinch hitter. Bloke regularly bats 5 in County Championship and has opened in international cricket. **** me, wind your neck in.
ffs if you want to contribute meaningfully I would welcome it but all your doing is making stupid points and insulting people while completely ignoring what is actually being said.

If you want to actually debate maturely or convince someone of your point of view, try actually reading what they say and respond to it rather than picking a random, largely irrelevant aspect to counter as if it somehow invalidates an entire argument.

Of course Luke Wright isn't the same as Sean Abbott, I directly said that myself in the post you quoted. His first-class average is not even remotely relevant either.

Seriously, just read the post before replying with something irrelevant. And insulting. It would make you look less like a child.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
Luke Wright being called a pinch hitter is self evidently stupid. He averages 40 in first class cricket and bats in the top 5. Anyone who thinks he is a pinch hitter is absolutely worthless debating as they lack enough knowledge of the subject matter to keep up.

A better example would be David Willey who opens for his domestic T20/List A side and could more accurately be called closer to a pinch hitter. It isn't a tactic used in T20, because as most astute observers of the game realise (including basically every professional team and all international teams) it is a waste to put a slogger up the order in the powerplay, as these overs need to be used by your best players. Indeed in T20 getting your best players in to maximise the deliveries they face is what the good teams do.
 

juro

U19 12th Man
can barely think of many pinch hitting examples let alone successful ones
When I think of pinch hitting in cricket, I always think back to Craig McDermott in a handful of ODIs. They chucked him in at 3, 4 or 5 and I don't recall it EVER coming off. Hated the idea ever since...
 

juro

U19 12th Man
I agree. Especially the last one.

I also felt Cameron White's consecutive boundaries, when he was on 30 from 30, were key. Last match, he lost his wicket at that moment. There's a difference between anchoring the innings and consuming a quarter of all deliveries at a run-a-ball. I think you should not be on 30 from 30 when chasing 180 in a T20. It puts too much pressure on the rest. But good on him, as he got his team out of it himself.

Doesn't make him the right MOTM imho. Bravo's innings was arguably more important. And Bravo bowled 4 tidy overs, taking 2 wickets. And he lost his bat again :) .
Considering White should have been out for 29, that was a massive boost for them.
 

juro

U19 12th Man
Watson really killed the momentum of the Thunder innings. He was 38 off 19 balls, then only managed another 24 off his next 24 balls. Thunder should have been defending 190+, not 173.
 

Gnske

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But he was the only one who gave the Blunder a chance, sure Khawaja pinch-hitted at the top but it was Watson's innings that was the cake of the total.

Watson did nothing wrong, blame Hussey the old codger for wasting 10 or so balls.
 

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