*Official* Second Test at Lord's

[wpdavid]

Yeah, unlike Broad and Swann hs actually has the ability to build an innings. He's never actually been dismissed in the 36-89 range ever in test cricket. All his scores above 35 have ever been not out or 90's. Whereas Broad and Swann are much better for a quick 40 or whatever. He's probably not as naturally talented as them with the bat, but he has a somewhat solid technique and can make a decent amount of runs in an innings when he gets set.

Maybe, but if you look at the times Bresnan's made a score that statistic isn't quite so impressive: 90 against Bangladesh, and another 90 and an unbeaten 50 against India when the series was already won. Broad, otoh, has made scores against better attacks and in more challenging situations.

That being said, he's doing an important job this morning. And Cook & Flower agree with you, so I'm not going to push the point.

 

[grecian]

never seen that graphic before. really interesting.

hmm, dunno about that graphic

It's clearly dividing opinion.

 

[MW1304]

It's an interesting idea for a graphic with some worth, but it looks stupid.

 

[Cabinet96]

Maybe, but if you look at the times Bresnan's made a score that statistic isn't quite so impressive: 90 against Bangladesh, and another 90 and an unbeaten 50 against India when the series was already won. Broad, otoh, has made scores against better attacks and in more challenging situations.

That being said, he's doing an important job this morning. And Cook & Flower agree with you, so I'm not going to push the point.

Broad's also had more chances. Look, against India he came in with a lead of about 280, on a track that was a bit up a down, and smoked 90. Yes it wasn't the best attack ever, but it wasn't that bad, and he still got more than Pietersen, Morgan and Prior. And his runs in Bangaldesh were pretty crucial too.

 

[Top_Cat]

Hasn't been much wrong with the Aussie bowling this morning, Root and Bresnan just batting with really good patience. Bit of an arm-wrestle at the minute.

 

[MW1304]

Maybe, but if you look at the times Bresnan's made a score that statistic isn't quite so impressive: 90 against Bangladesh, and another 90 and an unbeaten 50 against India when the series was already won. Broad, otoh, has made scores against better attacks and in more challenging situations.

That being said, he's doing an important job this morning. And Cook & Flower agree with you, so I'm not going to push the point.

A couple of weeks ago we were saying how monumentally **** Broad has been with the bat for some time, he barely looked a number 10, so I have no problem with the order as it is tbh.

 

[Spark]

Broad's also had more chances. Look, against India he came in with a lead of about 280, on a track that was a bit up a down, and smoked 90. Yes it wasn't the best attack ever, but it wasn't that bad, and he still got more than Pietersen, Morgan and Prior. And his runs in Bangaldesh were pretty crucial too.

My abiding memory of that innings and time was him and Broad absolutely hammering Suresh Raina into the Trent Bridge stands, so...

 

[MW1304]

Strauss man you're better than that.

 

[Prince EWS]

Yeah, unlike Broad and Swann hs actually has the ability to build an innings. He's never actually been dismissed in the 36-89 range ever in test cricket. All his scores above 35 have ever been not out or 90's. Whereas Broad and Swann are much better for a quick 40 or whatever. He's probably not as naturally talented as them with the bat, but he has a somewhat solid technique and can make a decent amount of runs in an innings when he gets set.

Yeah exactly; Bresnan bats like a really poor specialist batsman. He takes it very seriously, has the temperament to play a really big innings if he feels comfortable in his skin and makes it count once set. Broad and Swann bat like what they are; bowlers with significant batting talent.

 

[Spark]

let that roll for four rhino

 

[Top_Cat]

Bit of Mick Vaughan about that shot. Nice.

 

[Expressway76]

Hasn't been much wrong with the Aussie bowling this morning, Root and Bresnan just batting with really good patience. Bit of an arm-wrestle at the minute.

Siddle especially. He might have a face like a bag of smashed crabs but he's a seriously good bowler.

 

[wpdavid]

Strauss man you're better than that.

Eh?

 

[Top_Cat]

Siddle especially. He might have a face like a bag of smashed crabs but he's a seriously good bowler.

Harsh, tbh.

 

[Pothas]

Nice dull first hour, makes for such a lovely change.

 

[Cabinet96]

My abiding memory of that innings and time was him and Broad absolutely hammering Suresh Raina into the Trent Bridge stands, so...

He didn't actually face a ball from Raina that game: 2nd Test: England v India at Nottingham, Jul 29-Aug 1, 2011 | Cricket Commentary | ESPN Cricinfo

Look, he was mostly smashing Praveen, Ishant and Sreesanth, hardly Steyn, Philander and Morkel, but it wasn't really that bad.

 

[MW1304]

Eh?

Said that Siddle's wickets last night typified his 'runs in all day' thing. It was his first spell for god's sake.

 

[Pothas]

Yeah exactly; Bresnan bats like a really poor specialist batsman. He takes it very seriously, has the temperament to play a really big innings if he feels comfortable in his skin and makes it count once set. Broad and Swann bat like what they are; bowlers with significant batting talent.

My memory may exaggerated it but Broad used to look like an actual batsman at times.

 

[91Jmay]

First ball Agar has turned so far. Good sign for him.

 

[Maximas]

rev counter only working when it feels like now...