***Official*** Australia in India 2012/13

[Ilovecric]

@ESPNcricinfo: Right now, the Australian team is having a net in the middle with Matthew Hayden overseeing. #IndvAus


Good start!!

it's all posturing ..AUS will have their asses handed to them in the next test aswell..

When you are not good enough you are just not good enough this attitude crap can only go so far...

 

[ankitj]

Merv looks like he wants to crack some heads. Don't blame him. A terrible, insipid performance.

Is he your childhood buddy? Call him Hughes.

 

[benchmark00]

it's all posturing ..AUS will have their asses handed to them in the next test aswell..

When you are not good enough you are just not good enough this attitude crap can only go so far...

How is training in match conditions got anything to do with attitude? Don't be stupid.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

How is training in match conditions got anything to do with attitude? Don't be stupid.

Doing what they are doing is showing some intent to improve at least. Better than sitting having a beer in the dressing room anyway. Might not work, probably won't but it is something.

 

[watson]

This team is just hopeless in these conditions, it's completely contrary to Australia's strengths (fast bowling and a batting line up which is suited to playing against pace), what did you expect?

Wait for the whole raft (already had a few already) of people coming in and saying there's no light at the end of the tunnel. What a joke. The worst thing Australia can do is put a line through these players just because they failed horribly in these conditions.

Does anyone think its just a magical coincidence that there's a shortage of quality spin bowlers and a shortage of players who can play against quality spin at the moment? I can assure you, it's no coincidence. Instead of getting rid of players who are clearly in our top six batsmen but have technical deficiencies against spin in these conditions, we should be coaching these players how to play in these conditions. Prepare a clay based pitch and kick **** out of it just outside off stump and get off spinners to bowl into the rough. Currently our domestic spinners aren't good enough to provide difficulties to our batsmen without this assistance, so the batsmen are never going to get challenged and learn how to rotate strike and not get dictated too.

Australia also need to give up on the idea of batting Wade in the top six (worst selection policy in my life time). He's clearly not in our top six bats and should only be chosen if his gloves are decent enough, and should be batting at 7. At the moment they're clearly not good enough. He needs to either give up the gloves, go back to shield cricket and just become a batsman and legitimately become one of our top six, or he needs to go back to shield cricket and greatly improve his glove work, then come back and bat at seven.

The Ed Cowan experiment is over. If Shane Watson is not bowling which he probably shouldn't be, he should be opening.

We need to re-introduce a specialist batsman into the middle order. One of Doolan/Khawaja/Marsh/Bailey (Only saying Bailey as the Indian series is over and he's decent against seam).

Hughes needs to be played in pace bowler friendly environments and learn how to play in sub continental conditions in between.

Our pace bowling is fine overall, and we should not be picking a spin bowler for the sake of it.

Ed Cowan top scored in the innings which isn't saying much admittedly, but credit where credit is due.

If an experiment is over then it's the Phil Hughes experiment. I really can't see him making a decent score against India, or surviving 45 mins of James Anderson should he make the Ashes tour. Hughes has one of the worst overall techniques I've seen in a long time. The following top 4 is obvious to me;

01. Warner
02. Cowan
03. Watson
04. Clarke
etc

 

[benchmark00]

Doing what they are doing is showing some intent to improve at least. Better than sitting having a beer in the dressing room anyway. Might not work, probably won't but it is something.

Yes. This is the sort of stuff they should have been doing in the lead up to the matches (I assume they were). The thing is, you don't just wake up and be a good player of spin in Indian conditions. It takes hours and hours of practice until you find a method that works for you. The only way these players are going to get better is training in these conditions.

The board had the right idea by sending the team over early, we don't know how they practiced by obviously it wasn't sufficient enough. It's the first time most of these players have played a test series in India so it's a learning experience. That's not to say they shouldn't have been better prepared, but it is what it is.

 

[ankitj]

Pujara in post match ceremony:

There was a bit of pressure on me. I just got married, and my wife was worried I should perform

 

[benchmark00]

Ed Cowan top scored in the innings which isn't saying much admittedly, but credit where credit is due.

If an experiment is over then it's the Phil Hughes experiment. I really can't see him making a decent score against India, or surviving 45 mins of James Anderson should he make the Ashes tour. Hughes has one of the worst overall techniques I've seen in a long time. The following top 4 is obvious to me;

01. Warner
02. Cowan
03. Watson
04. Clarke
etc

Hughes' technique has come a million miles in the last 12 months. He's fine against pace bowling now. He's no good against spin bowling in these conditions.


There is no way you can advocate the continued selection of Cowan beyond this series, especially on the basis of 40 odd runs where he was consistently bogged down, just fighting for his life to survive, and not rotating the strike. His job is to see off the new ball, but he rarely does that any more.

Hughes has proved he can play pace bowling over the past few months (I assume you have been watching him in domestic cricket?) and demands selection beyond this tour.

 

[Spikey]

they had a net on the pitch after the last test too just ftr

 

[Spikey]

@ESPNcricinfo: Right now, the Australian team is having a net in the middle with Matthew Hayden overseeing. #IndvAus


Good start!!

"alright lads it's like I told the kids at the superkings"

 

[Ruckus]

Hughes' technique has come a million miles in the last 12 months. He's fine against pace bowling now. He's no good against spin bowling in these conditions.


There is no way you can advocate the continued selection of Cowan beyond this series, especially on the basis of 40 odd runs where he was consistently bogged down, just fighting for his life to survive, and not rotating the strike. His job is to see off the new ball, but he rarely does that any more.

Hughes has proved he can play pace bowling over the past few months (I assume you have been watching him in domestic cricket?) and demands selection beyond this tour.

I'm sure his technique had improved somewhat, but that's a pretty bold statement to make at this stage. He hasn't been tested against quality pace bowling at all since his recall. His form in domestic cricket has never been a particularly good predictor of his test match performance anyway.

I'm not sold on Hughes being this whole 'new and improved' player until he actually scores runs against a quality team.

 

[benchmark00]

So we drop him and never get a chance to test him again good teams? Seems legit.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

Lyon and Doherty seems like a reasonable spin duo for next Test, you'd think. Lyon better at destroying the tail and on the basis of averages a better bat than Maxwell.

Also, Henriques did himself nothing but credit in his bowling. Gave them effectively nothing, which is all you'd ask of a third seamer here.

Siddle is another story. For the first time in my life I'd tell him to bowl a bit wider.

Very disappointing that none of the quicks thought of bowling cutters as an extended tactic.

 

[Spikey]

PEWS must be happy his boy did better with the ball than Nathan Lyon would have, right

 

[Midwinter]

should have realised we were in trouble when the selectors decided to strengthen the batting at the expense of the bowling.

6 batsman 4 bowlers and a wicketkeeper

Disappointed Wade wasn't given bowl tbh

 

[Spikey]

we picked 4 bowlers. don't know why we included siddle after we picked the 4 bowlers though

 

[benchmark00]

It's hard to comprehend how **** Siddle bowled. The conditions don't make a guy bowl 80% of his deliveries on or outside leg stump. Yeah he may have been looking for swing to start off with, but take the hint ffs.

 

[Spikey]

it's hard to perform so badly as to make MJ seem like a great option, but here we are

 

[benchmark00]

How **** does that new baking show on channel 9 look? That dude that played Kenny is a real cork soaker.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

it's hard to perform so badly as to make MJ seem like a great option, but here we are

Agreed, he bowled like a champ last time Australia played in Mohali to boot.