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***Official*** Australia in India 2012/13

pup11

pup11

International Coach
NUFAN said:
I wonder if Smith will play the next Test. Think he could surprise a few people with his batting. Khawaja MUST play and I would play Johnson too.

Cowan Warner Khawaja Clarke Smith Wade Henriques Johnson Pattinson Lyon Doherty

That's the XI from the squad I think we will pick assuming Watto leaves. Ideally I would want 6 genuine bats but the bowlers are struggling just as much.
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Smith is the best player of spin among the younger bunch of batsmen that we have got, that's mainly because he uses his feet to come down to the pitch of the ball, the problem with him is that he would make a good looking 30-40 and then get himself out, that's primarily the reason why he has faded from the international calculations across all formats.
 
Neil Young

Neil Young

State Vice-Captain
I really like the way Clarke speaks. Haven't really taken any notice of the bloke, but I like his character going on the press conference after their loss today. Good for him.
 
howardj

howardj

International Coach
benchmark00 said:
This team is just hopeless in these conditions, it's completely contrary to Australia's strengths (fast bowling and a batting line up which is suited to playing against pace), what did you expect?

Wait for the whole raft (already had a few already) of people coming in and saying there's no light at the end of the tunnel. What a joke. The worst thing Australia can do is put a line through these players just because they failed horribly in these conditions.

Does anyone think its just a magical coincidence that there's a shortage of quality spin bowlers and a shortage of players who can play against quality spin at the moment? I can assure you, it's no coincidence. Instead of getting rid of players who are clearly in our top six batsmen but have technical deficiencies against spin in these conditions, we should be coaching these players how to play in these conditions. Prepare a clay based pitch and kick **** out of it just outside off stump and get off spinners to bowl into the rough. Currently our domestic spinners aren't good enough to provide difficulties to our batsmen without this assistance, so the batsmen are never going to get challenged and learn how to rotate strike and not get dictated too.

Australia also need to give up on the idea of batting Wade in the top six (worst selection policy in my life time). He's clearly not in our top six bats and should only be chosen if his gloves are decent enough, and should be batting at 7. At the moment they're clearly not good enough. He needs to either give up the gloves, go back to shield cricket and just become a batsman and legitimately become one of our top six, or he needs to go back to shield cricket and greatly improve his glove work, then come back and bat at seven.

The Ed Cowan experiment is over. If Shane Watson is not bowling which he probably shouldn't be, he should be opening.

We need to re-introduce a specialist batsman into the middle order. One of Doolan/Khawaja/Marsh/Bailey (Only saying Bailey as the Indian series is over and he's decent against seam).

Hughes needs to be played in pace bowler friendly environments and learn how to play in sub continental conditions in between.

Our pace bowling is fine overall, and we should not be picking a spin bowler for the sake of it.
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So, in one breath, you defend our top six, but in the next, you say Wade and Cowan have no place there. Surely, if they don't, neither does Hughes (he who averaged sub 40 for SA this Summer, had a human shield for the SA series, cashed in against the hapless Sris, and currently in this Series averages 6.25, for an overall Test average of 32)

So we're down to Clarke, Warner and Watson.

i agree with that at least.

Likewise, Doherty has no place, and number 8 is a spot for a specialst bowler

So, other than that, the selectors have done a good job.
 
benchmark00

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howardj said:
So, in one breath, you defend our top six, but in the next, you say Wade and Cowan have no place there. Surely, if they don't, neither does Hughes (he who averaged sub 40 for SA this Summer, had a human shield for the SA series, cashed in against the hapless Sris, and currently in this Series averages 6.25, for an overall Test average of 32)

So we're down to Clarke, Warner and Watson.

i agree with that at least.

Likewise, Doherty has no place, and number 8 is a spot for a specialst bowler

So, other than that, the selectors have done a good job.
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When did I defend our top six like you are saying I am? I have said for a long long long time Wade is not a number 6's arsehole and have said for a while that if Watson doesn't bowl he must open.

You are quick to say Hughes isn't in our top six, but who are you saying is? You are the man who constantly advocates Callum ****ing Ferguson on the basis that he 'looks comfortable at international level', despite him averaging a muscular 38 this season, which tbf is a golden summer for Callum considering he averages lower than that for his career.

Hughes is in our top six batsmen. As are Warner, Watson and Clarke.

Finding out definitively who the other two are is the challenge. In non sub continental conditions I suggest it's two of Doolan, Khawaja, Marsh and Bailey.

Number seven should always be our wicket keeper, and I'd only ever advocate playing a medium pace batting all rounder (Henriques at this stage) at 6 if the conditions demand we play Lyon.

Your cure for Australia's woes is 'stop being funky'. So basically, you have no idea but hide behind those little lines.
 
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social

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Looking at things from a really simple perspective

1. Watto is apparently going home so we are well within our rights to bring in a replacement and there is plenty of time to do so

Other than Ponting (thanks for the memories) and Rogers ('nuff said), the best performing batsman in domestic cricket is Brad Haddin

Get him on the plane

2. Bird has gone home so we are well within our rights to bring in a replacement and there is plenty of time to do so

We dont need another quick as there are already 4 fit ones in India so choose someone else

That person should be a spinner (SOK) or a middle order bat (Bailey, Voges or Doolan)

If they dont use the next 10 days to do something then it is tantamount to negligence on the part of the selectors
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Neil Young said:
I really like the way Clarke speaks. Haven't really taken any notice of the bloke, but I like his character going on the press conference after their loss today. Good for him.
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Eh, this is nothing on his Cape Town pressers. Now they were brutal.
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Vaughan is, to state the patently obvious, an idiot. Benchy in right is saying this doesn't mean that much in that our biggest strength is all but nullified by the conditions.
 
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