***Official*** Australia in India 2012/13

[Flem274*]

Is there anyone better Australia can realistically (i.e. not blacklisted) bring in though?

Apart from the obvious Wade for Haddin, Khawaja and Bailey are the only other names and even then they're not obviously better than any of the incumbents.

Bowling another kettle of fish obvz

 

[Ruckus]

The selectors really ****ed up the attack, and there should have been at least one difference to the batting line up. But realistically, we've been beaten so badly I doubt any of that would have mattered too much. We just have to accept the batting stocks are terrible.

 

[social]

Not sure that I really want to see Khawaja play in India anyway

He is a top order bat that they will probably play at 6 and the last thing that we need is another leftie anyway

 

[Spikey]

Chris Barrett ‏@ChrisBarrett_

Michael Clarke says he will definitely now move up the batting order . "I have no choice" #ausvind

I have no choice strikes me as an interesting way of phrasing things. I thought like it was going to happen because they wasn't going to be 4 openers ahead of him next game (Watson home, Hughes dropped), but this seems much more firm.

 

[benchmark00]

b00nchmark99 to tell you that it's not all that bad, and to stop overreacting.

Nnanden to come in and post hopeless cricketers that should be playing and tantrum it up if they don't get a game then when they do get a game and fail go missing for six months.

 

[uvelocity]

I have no choice strikes me as an interesting way of phrasing things. I thought like it was going to happen because they wasn't going to be 4 openers ahead of him next game (Watson home, Hughes dropped), but this seems much more firm.

after poonyang retired it was 'i'll bat where is best for the team' which i don't think happened so far this series. good that he cracked it though

 

[Ruckus]

Can the management supersede Clarke's authority and force him to move up, or does it have to be a mutual decision, given he is captain and a selector?

 

[uvelocity]

warner
khawaja
clarke
moises
smith
wade
johnson
siddle
starc
doherty
lyon

*watson home & patto surely needs a rest now

 

[uvelocity]

however badly that team will do, or whatever team we pick, it cant get any worse anyway

 

[Spikey]

you sent warner home or what?

and yeah there's no way pattinson isn't in the danger zone and it would be beyond insanity to play him, particularly given he hasn't really looked all that likely since he started getting more than 3 over spells anyway

 

[Burgey]

warner
khawaja
clarke
moises
smith
wade
johnson
siddle
starc
doherty
lyon

*watson home & patto surely needs a rest now

That's arguably a worse batting line up than the one which played this game.

Reckon we should run with it.

 

[Spikey]

we're surely naming a replacement for bird tonight right

 

[benchmark00]

This team is just hopeless in these conditions, it's completely contrary to Australia's strengths (fast bowling and a batting line up which is suited to playing against pace), what did you expect?

Wait for the whole raft (already had a few already) of people coming in and saying there's no light at the end of the tunnel. What a joke. The worst thing Australia can do is put a line through these players just because they failed horribly in these conditions.

Does anyone think its just a magical coincidence that there's a shortage of quality spin bowlers and a shortage of players who can play against quality spin at the moment? I can assure you, it's no coincidence. Instead of getting rid of players who are clearly in our top six batsmen but have technical deficiencies against spin in these conditions, we should be coaching these players how to play in these conditions. Prepare a clay based pitch and kick **** out of it just outside off stump and get off spinners to bowl into the rough. Currently our domestic spinners aren't good enough to provide difficulties to our batsmen without this assistance, so the batsmen are never going to get challenged and learn how to rotate strike and not get dictated too.

Australia also need to give up on the idea of batting Wade in the top six (worst selection policy in my life time). He's clearly not in our top six bats and should only be chosen if his gloves are decent enough, and should be batting at 7. At the moment they're clearly not good enough. He needs to either give up the gloves, go back to shield cricket and just become a batsman and legitimately become one of our top six, or he needs to go back to shield cricket and greatly improve his glove work, then come back and bat at seven.

The Ed Cowan experiment is over. If Shane Watson is not bowling which he probably shouldn't be, he should be opening.

We need to re-introduce a specialist batsman into the middle order. One of Doolan/Khawaja/Marsh/Bailey (Only saying Bailey as the Indian series is over and he's decent against seam).

Hughes needs to be played in pace bowler friendly environments and learn how to play in sub continental conditions in between.

Our pace bowling is fine overall, and we should not be picking a spin bowler for the sake of it.

 

[Ruckus]

It's Peter George

 

[flibbertyjibber]

tbf even Philander doesn't look quite as threatening away from home

Nor does Ashwin against a team who apply themselves.

Wasn't expecting it to be all over by the time I got up.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Should bat 3 in India

Clarke HAS to bat 3, if only to avoid being stranded with the tail with him nicely set again.

The selectors really ****ed up the attack, and there should have been at least one difference to the batting line up. But realistically, we've been beaten so badly I doubt any of that would have mattered too much. We just have to accept the batting stocks are terrible.

Yeah, the bowling picked was a bit of a joke but they had nothing to work with from the batsmen. Only thing that you can do is hope some of them learn quickly how to adapt and find a way to score runs. That or get rid of them all which isn't an option.

 

[morgieb]

This team is just hopeless in these conditions, it's completely contrary to Australia's strengths (fast bowling and a batting line up which is suited to playing against pace), what did you expect?

Wait for the whole raft (already had a few already) of people coming in and saying there's no light at the end of the tunnel. What a joke. The worst thing Australia can do is put a line through these players just because they failed horribly in these conditions.

Does anyone think its just a magical coincidence that there's a shortage of quality spin bowlers and a shortage of players who can play against quality spin at the moment? I can assure you, it's no coincidence. Instead of getting rid of players who are clearly in our top six batsmen but have technical deficiencies against spin in these conditions, we should be coaching these players how to play in these conditions. Prepare a clay based pitch and kick **** out of it just outside off stump and get off spinners to bowl into the rough. Currently our domestic spinners aren't good enough to provide difficulties to our batsmen without this assistance, so the batsmen are never going to get challenged and learn how to rotate strike and not get dictated too.

Australia also need to give up on the idea of batting Wade in the top six (worst selection policy in my life time). He's clearly not in our top six bats and should only be chosen if his gloves are decent enough, and should be batting at 7. At the moment they're clearly not good enough. He needs to either give up the gloves, go back to shield cricket and just become a batsman and legitimately become one of our top six, or he needs to go back to shield cricket and greatly improve his glove work, then come back and bat at seven.

The Ed Cowan experiment is over. If Shane Watson is not bowling which he probably shouldn't be, he should be opening.

We need to re-introduce a specialist batsman into the middle order. One of Doolan/Khawaja/Marsh/Bailey (Only saying Bailey as the Indian series is over and he's decent against seam).

Hughes needs to be played in pace bowler friendly environments and learn how to play in sub continental conditions in between.

Our pace bowling is fine overall, and we should not be picking a spin bowler for the sake of it.

QFT. Great, great post.

 

[angad]

Australia can win next 2 tests, they will be played in North India. Weather is 15-23c with a gentle wind, Mohali pitch also favors pace bowling. Delhi is unpredictable. Pattinson should play.

 

[benchmark00]

@ESPNcricinfo: Right now, the Australian team is having a net in the middle with Matthew Hayden overseeing. #IndvAus


Good start!!

 

[uvelocity]

Hey benchmark,

Cliffs?