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**Official** West Indies in England 2012

WindieWeathers

International Regular
So when Smith was on fire and your team was behind Swann hiding was acceptable just because the ball isn't old enough? i've heard it all now!! :laugh: , if Swann wanted in he'd have forced the issue, but nah, he just hid away at slip with his hands in his pockets!!!.....
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
So when Smith was on fire and your team was behind Swann hiding was acceptable just because the ball isn't old enough? i've heard it all now!! :laugh: , if Swann wanted in he'd have forced the issue, but nah, he just hid away at slip with his hands in his pockets!!!.....
Well Swann not coming on worked didn't it? Or was that another doctoring tactic that was designed to screw the poor innocent and hapless West Indies side over? 8-)
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Well those "fair" pitches you produced at home haven't seemed to win you a world cup for a while. Or even a test series for that matter.
We may not have won a test series but we DID draw with the same pak side that just whitewashed a certain team!!......


There was near to no doctoring, and even if it was it's nothing new. Why don't you spare us and go and crucify South Africa or India for occasionally preparing a track that helped them more than the opposition.
Yes there was, the ropes were moved back to make the boundrie hard to make, and i just told you we played India not long ago and they were confident in their own abilities, no need for any "extras" :D .
 

weeman27bob

International Vice-Captain
West Indies are just a joke of a team, I mean they haven't ever won an Ashes series have they, let alone back to back ones...
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
Yes there was, the ropes were moved back to make the boundrie hard to make, and i just told you we played India not long ago and they were confident in their own abilities, no need for any "extras" :D .
Yes India never doctor their pitches. 8-) Pretty sure I've heard it all now. Pathetic argument tbh.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Well Swann not coming on worked didn't it? Or was that another doctoring tactic that was designed to screw the poor innocent and hapless West Indies side over? 8-)
Nah no doctoring, the skipper obviously didn't have enough confidence in the "best spinner in the world" on that road!!...yet people wanna question Narine!! :unsure:
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
Nah no doctoring, the skipper obviously didn't have enough confidence in the "best spinner in the world" on that road!!...yet people wanna question Narine!! :unsure:
Or maybe he thought he'd by more effective early on. FFS you could argue Jayawardene doesn't have confidence in Malinga because he occasionally holds a lot of his overs back for the end of the innings.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
"We lost because they moved the ropes back" has to be one of the funniest excuses ever tbf.
Don't try and put words in peoples mouths please!!.. thats what toddlers do.

I'm disgusted with how WI played, but that doesn't mean i shouldn't point out the tactics England used aswell.
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
Not in our series they didn't!!!.. i guess because they were the higher ranked team they were confident!!.. unlike other teams!! :cool: .
You didn't think they doctored conditions because Indian conditions are similar to West Indies conditions. While on the contrary you do think England doctored conditions because they weren't the same as what you'd see in WI. Face it, we had the ropes back where they should be, and prepared a flat pitch. Don't see anything too new about that, unless I'm missing something.

Also I'd like to know why an earth England should be confident with their ODI team.
 

benchmark00

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Don't try and put words in peoples mouths please!!.. thats what toddlers do.

I'm disgusted with how WI played, but that doesn't mean i shouldn't point out the tactics England used aswell.


Can you please elaborate on this? How do toddlers do this?

I rarely find toddlers disagreeable itbt.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
Or maybe he thought he'd by more effective early on. FFS you could argue Jayawardene doesn't have confidence in Malinga because he occasionally holds a lot of his overs back for the end of the innings.
Just four overs proves my case, went for seven runs in his first over then Cook decided he'd seen enough!! :laugh: , then brought him back when the game was virtually over, like i said it looks like the skipper's lost faith in Swanny!!..
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
Just four overs proves my case, went for seven runs in his first over then Cook decided he'd seen enough!! :laugh: , then brought him back when the game was virtually over, like i said it looks like the skipper's lost faith in Swanny!!..
And that one over happened to be the last over before the powerplay. And then when the powerplay ended, the seamers were taking wickets. Why would he take them off when they're taking wickets and winning his side the game.
 

WindieWeathers

International Regular
You didn't think they doctored conditions because Indian conditions are similar to West Indies conditions. While on the contrary you do think England doctored conditions because they weren't the same as what you'd see in WI. Face it, we had the ropes back where they should be, and prepared a flat pitch. Don't see anything too new about that, unless I'm missing something.

Also I'd like to know why an earth England should be confident with their ODI team.
India weren't moving ropes back!!.. therefore they didn't doctor anything, and how the hell are the likes of Kensington Oval and Sabina park similar to India conditions? :blink: i don't think so.
 

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If you actually took the time to read my original post you would see that England obviously done their homework and found that our batsmen aren't keen on taking many 1s and 2s, they usually take up a lot of dot balls and hit boundries, so England moved the ropes far back which would force our batsmen to take more singles or hit the ball further than usual, that obviously didn't work out too well,

They also prepard a flat pitch knowing we had the weaker attack, our medium pacers wasn't gonna be a problem on that pitch, it also worked against our main weapon (Narine), on reflection it was smart tactics by england, but very cowardly against a team ranked lower than them imo.
I had a full six years of legal training yet I'd still struggle to construct this sort of superficially compelling argument as well has been done here. I am impressed.
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
India weren't moving ropes back!!.. therefore they didn't doctor anything, and how the hell are the likes of Kensington Oval and Sabina park similar to India conditions? :blink: i don't think so.
No but they designed grounds that had small outfields. Clearly a cowardly move to dumbfound players from other nations.
 

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