**Official** West Indies in England 2012

[Furball]

Beyond parody.

 

[marc71178]

FFS it was not cowardly, get that ****ing chip off your shoulder..

 

[WindieWeathers]

Beyond parody.

Yep, other fans crying because i have a different opinion is very funny indeed!! .

 

[WindieWeathers]

FFS it was not cowardly, get that ****ing chip off your shoulder..

Cheer up old chap, your teams tactics worked and you won the game!! .

 

[grecian]

Yeah because having a different opinion to yours obviously means i'm a "troll"!!!.. well done einstein you got me!! .

Thanks

 

[flibbertyjibber]

WW I think you will find that the majority of one day games are played on flat batting tracks around the world of late. Are all nations conspiring against WI as we fear your team?

 

[WindieWeathers]

Thanks

no need to thank me, just keep using the same logic and showing the world how smart you are!! .

 

[WindieWeathers]

WW I think you will find that the majority of one day games are played on flat batting tracks around the world of late. Are all nations conspiring against WI as we fear your team?

Not in our recent series against Australia!!..the pitches had something it them for the pacers and the batters, so it was a level playing field for both teams, and as a result it was a very entertaining series.

but if England wanna keep producing roads and moving ropes then that's up to them i guess, i'm sure it will help them the next time they go to India and play a one day series!!....

 

[Prince EWS]

Not in our recent series against Australia!!..the pitches had something it them for the pacers and the batters, so it was a level playing field for both teams, and as a result it was a very entertaining series.

but if England wanna keep producing roads and moving ropes then that's up to them i guess, i'm sure it will help them the next time they go to India and play a one day series!!....

By the same token, producing helpful pitches didn't help the West Indies for their trip to England, did it?

 

[Furball]

Not in our recent series against Australia!!..the pitches had something it them for the pacers and the batters, so it was a level playing field for both teams, and as a result it was a very entertaining series.

but if England wanna keep producing roads and moving ropes then that's up to them i guess, i'm sure it will help them the next time they go to India and play a one day series!!....

The pitches in that Australia series were a joke.

 

[Cabinet96]

If you actually took the time to read my original post you would see that England obviously done their homework and found that our batsmen aren't keen on taking many 1s and 2s, they usually take up a lot of dot balls and hit boundries, so England moved the ropes far back which would force our batsmen to take more singles or hit the ball further than usual, that obviously didn't work out too well,

They also prepard a flat pitch knowing we had the weaker attack, our medium pacers wasn't gonna be a problem on that pitch, it also worked against our main weapon (Narine), on reflection it was smart tactics by england, but very cowardly against a team ranked lower than them imo.

We didn't move the ropes back. We just didn't move the forward. Like I said if we moved the ropes in you would have said it was a cowardly move so that the likes of Bell could launch sixes.

Also preparing a flat track isn't an anomaly FFS! Nearly all tracks for ODI's are roads, because that creates lots of runs which the fans want. It really isn't that hard to comprehend.

Cheer up old chap, your teams tactics worked and you won the game!! .

And clearly your's did as well as you managed to draw the ODI's against a much inferior Aussies side a few months ago. You prepared raging turners so that Narine would cause problems.

 

[Cabinet96]

but if England wanna keep producing roads and moving ropes then that's up to them i guess, i'm sure it will help them the next time they go to India and play a one day series!!....

Yes because the pitches in India will just be bowling paradises

 

[WindieWeathers]

The pitches in that Australia series were a joke.

"Joke"? not for me, we had no advantage in that series and Australia were ranked NUMBER ONE, so we took them on face to face without trying to doctor things, the first few tracks man have spun a bit but they had spinners aswell.

 

[Cabinet96]

Australia's spinners were Doherty and David Hussey IIRC. It was obvious there main wicket taking threat was going to come from the seamers, and one could argue you countered that by preparing slow turners.

 

[WindieWeathers]

We didn't move the ropes back. We just didn't move the forward. Like I said if we moved the ropes in you would have said it was a cowardly move so that the likes of Bell could launch sixes.

Also preparing a flat track isn't an anomaly FFS! Nearly all tracks for ODI's are roads, because that creates lots of runs which the fans want. It really isn't that hard to comprehend.

The sky chaps clearly said THE ROPES WERE MOVED BACK on my feed, so argue with them, not me, furthermore like i said it seems England aren't confident in themselves to prepare a decent track, why all roads? oh yes, because your batters are used to the conditions and you have your test pacers in the team versus our medium pacers, like i said smart thinking but cowardly non the less.

And clearly your's did as well as you managed to draw the ODI's against a much inferior Aussies side a few months ago. You prepared raging turners so that Narine would cause problems.

What? erm AUSTRALIA ARE RANKED NUMBER ONE, also THEY HAD SPINNERS ASWELL, not to mention our openers were Johnson Charles and Powell, to kids, so NO!!.. i don't think we had the kind of advantages that England have i'm afraid.

 

[Cabinet96]

Of course the whole argument is pointless, because even if you think England got a big advantage out of the flat pitch and big boundaries, and that we doctored it to meet our needs, it's still a desperate point you're making. Pitch doctoring is nothing new, and is done regularly throughout the cricketing world, and if you think that not creating conditions that suited your teams needs was cowardly, then you are seriously clutching at straws.

 

[WindieWeathers]

Yes because the pitches in India will just be bowling paradises

At least they'll take spin!!!..so good luck there!!

 

[Cabinet96]

The sky chaps clearly said THE ROPES WERE MOVED BACK on my feed, so argue with them, not me, furthermore like i said it seems England aren't confident in themselves to prepare a decent track, why all roads? oh yes, because your batters are used to the conditions and you have your test pacers in the team versus our medium pacers, like i said smart thinking but cowardly non the less.

They knew what the conditions were like before they picked the team. They saw a road and decided to play lots of medium pacers. They had 2 genuine quick bowlers on the sidelines who they could have used. It seems like, form your argument, that it was pretty **** captaincy and selection from WI to play the medium pacers, since it apparently gave you such a disadvantage on that pitch. Blame your own **** management, not the curator.

And flat picks are usually prepared for ODI's because that bring boundaries, runs and excitement. Many people believe flat decks should be prepared for ODI's, and Michael Holding is one of the strongest campaigners for ODI's to be played on flat pitches.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

The sky chaps clearly said THE ROPES WERE MOVED BACK on my feed, so argue with them, not me, furthermore like i said it seems England aren't confident in themselves to prepare a decent track, why all roads? oh yes, because your batters are used to the conditions and you have your test pacers in the team versus our medium pacers, like i said smart thinking but cowardly non the less.

So how come Swann got 2 wickets in 4 overs on this track then? If it was so bad for spinners surely that would be impossible.

 

[WindieWeathers]

Of course the whole argument is pointless, because even if you think England got a big advantage out of the flat pitch and big boundaries, and that we doctored it to meet our needs, it's still a desperate point you're making. Pitch doctoring is nothing new, and is done regularly throughout the cricketing world, and if you think that not creating conditions that suited your teams needs was cowardly, then you are seriously clutching at straws.

It's not about "suiting our needs", it's about preparing a pitch that suits BOTH TEAMS so we can have a good contest, what are england gonna learn from this series exactly? you'll doctor the pitches and push ropes back, win 3-0 and then when it comes to playing a decent team on more even terms like India away you'll get embarrassed again!!, that's what England can't seem to fathom.