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Umpiring Errors

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
I love how the one who keeps insisting he knows what Morgan was thinking (because of "reports") is telling others to stop trying to read minds.

If Morgan had referred it it would've been overturned as there was no evidence he hit it. There was probably more evidence that Laxman was out yesterday (there being a sound and all).
There is more evidence of Morgan saying that he edged it than not so there you go. And TV replay were not clear at all.

Plus he walked off without reviewing it. No mind reading skills needed after that.

You cannot go telling around batsman to be honest and then when they walk without any motive, tell them they were not out based on your interpretation of a stupid TV replay.:laugh::laugh:
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
There is more evidence of Morgan saying that he edged it than not so there you go. And TV replay were not clear at all.

Plus he walked off without reviewing it. No mind reading skills needed after that.

You cannot go telling around batsman to be honest and then when they walk without any motive, tell them they were not out based on your interpretation of a stupid TV replay.:laugh::laugh:
Can you provide us with some first hand quotes from Morgan please?
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Can you provide us with some first hand quotes from Morgan please?
I don't need to because he walked FFS!! Which is better than any quotes.

It's the others who are speculating based on nothing really. Plus Sky confirmed it ,so all evidence is one way right now.

See there are 2 possibilites even taking your hypothetical world(which i don't think it is) -
1)Either he was a Idiot who did not know he could review that, which is his fault. In which case there is no certainty too that it would have been overturned and "supposition and bullcrap" comes in.:laugh:

2)He really edged it and believes it in which case it matters **** all what people are biasedly interpretating from the replays.
 
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Furball

Evil Scotsman
I don't need to because he walked FFS!! Which is better than any quotes.

It's the others who are speculating based on nothing really. Plus Sky confirmed it ,so all evidence is one way right now.

See there are 2 possibilites even taking your hypothetical world(which i don't think it is) -
1)Either he was a Idiot who did not know he could review that, which is his fault. In which case there is no certainty too that it would have been overturned and "supposition and bullcrap" comes in.:laugh:

2)He really edged it and believes it in which case it matters **** all what people are biasedly interpretating from the replays.
3. He thought he'd been given lbw.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
It's just as likely as the one being peddled by others based on "reports" which have never been confirmed.

Then to claim it wouldn't have been overturned had it been reviewed.
 

Daemon

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I remember reading on Cricinfo that news from the dressing room was that Morgan felt he'd nicked it. Not sure though, and in any case it's Morgans fault for not reviewing it/thinking it was an LBW. Can't agree with Cevno that it wouldn't have been overturned though, I think it would have.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
One to India. That was plumb.
Inclined to agree, but, as I said in the match thread, would it have been overturned? Clearly hitting leg, but the ball did have over 2.5m to travel. IIRC a plumber NO decision was upheld in the WC because of that.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Inclined to agree, but, as I said in the match thread, would it have been overturned? Clearly hitting leg, but the ball did have over 2.5m to travel. IIRC a plumber NO decision was upheld in the WC because of that.
I think that was more down to Bowden being a moron tbf.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Don't think it was ever a "rule", was it? Just that Hawkeye supposedly gets less accurate predicting over longer distances.
Well it has to by definition but it was still a rule. There is nothing magical about 2.5 vs. 2.6 or 2.4 - it's likely a progressive reduction in accuracy.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Well it has to by definition but it was still a rule. There is nothing magical about 2.5 vs. 2.6 or 2.4 - it's likely a progressive reduction in accuracy.
I think it's more to do with HawkEye not wanting to change too drastically how the game is played. The 2.5m rule is more because in cricket you almost never get given lbw when you advance down the pitch.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Well it has to by definition but it was still a rule. There is nothing magical about 2.5 vs. 2.6 or 2.4 - it's likely a progressive reduction in accuracy.
Whatever. Pretty sure it wasn't a law or playing condition of cricket tho.

The Hawkeye on Sky showed "impact over 2.5m" so one must presume the guideline still applies.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Whatever. Pretty sure it wasn't a law or playing condition of cricket tho.

The Hawkeye on Sky showed "impact over 2.5m" so one must presume the guideline still applies.
World Cup 2011: ICC tweaks 2.5 metre DRS rule for 'consistency' | Cricket News | ICC Cricket World Cup 2011 | ESPN Cricinfo
World Cup 2011: ICC issues revised guidelines for 2.5m rule | Cricket News | ICC Cricket World Cup 2011 | ESPN Cricinfo

Dunno what it says exactly in the rulebook...trying to find it.
 
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BoyBrumby

Englishman
Fair dos. Def not an error then:

A directive has gone out from the ICC's Umpires & Referees manager to all umpires that if an lbw appeal shows that even though there may be a distance between the stumps and the point of impact of 2.5m or greater, the on-field umpire can think of reversing the decision even if the replay shows that the ball is hitting "any part of the middle" stump.

Was only hitting leg, so would've stayed NO.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
Where did that theory come from?
I said the other day that, on the review of the day they do on SKY with Bob Willis, they said this on there that he thought he was out Lbw, there was some here say around the time about it by SKY but obviously they were put right. Morgan didn't walk as Cevno keeps saying, he waited for the umpire and then walked off.
 

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