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Daryl Harper withdraws from Dominica test

honestbharani

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Am I missing something? Why are people saying let's play the bold and enlarge game now?

Anyway. I wonder if India's belief that certain Umpires and Match Referees have it in for them will become a self-fulfilling prophecy? I hope so.
yeah, like it was not the case before when an international match referee came out and said he applies different standards for Australia, South Africa, England and for the rest.. basically giving the first mentioned 3 a lot more leeway coz "they play the game hard".. 8-)
 

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Not as long as he is an Indian, I guess.. :p
Uncanny lack of replies to that post. :laugh: Should make a thread about it and see if it goes 25 pages praising him for his maturity and for handling bad decisions with grace. :dry:
 

honestbharani

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It will be if the team reviews them correctly each time.
ok, so we have a situation when a player KNOWS he has not edged the ball on the way to the keeper but is given out, and the replays are inconclusive.. Generally a player knows the best reg. these edges but due to pictures not being great (and trust me, we have even seen run outs given by 3rd umpire on the benefit of the doubt, it looks out but can't give it out based on that evidence sorta deal)... How is that the right decision and that will end up costing a review too... How will the player know how well the camera has caught the pictures? And what if there was no hot spot as it is "expensive"???
 

Burgey

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yeah.. it is horrible to tell someone they did a **** job when they actually did a **** job.. Its not like they are being paid to do this or anything, right? They are juz doing this as a service to the game they love.. 8-)
No mate. They have assessments and reports from both captains where things can be taken up.
 

honestbharani

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It is funny coz perhaps the greatest umpire of the modern era doesn't really find anything wrong with what Dhoni said.. But even more than that, he says this is something that used to happen a LOT during his time and that there is nothing new about this...
 

abmk

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yeah, like it was not the case before when an international match referee came out and said he applies different standards for Australia, South Africa, England and for the rest.. basically giving the first mentioned 3 a lot more leeway coz "they play the game hard".. 8-)
yeah, nothing is said against morons like Proctor when they make bull**** statements like that 8-)

But dhoni pointing out incompetent umpiring is a crime !

Just because UDRS isn't in place , doesn't mean the umpires can commit howlers and be excused for it
 
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so dhoni is the first player to criticize an umpire ?..this rule was there before and people have still come out and talked about it..
Who says he's the first, the tenth or the five hundredth? The question is whether he should have said it.

If Ponting made the same comment in India the effigies would be out.
 

honestbharani

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No mate. They have assessments and reports from both captains where things can be taken up.
And I would love to see what action was taken on that.. IIRC, Ganguly gave some of the worst assesments ever to Bucknor and Bowden and yet they were still around and led to most of the vitriol of the Sydney incidents.. Surely, it doesn't take much brains to work out things were not well between these two umpires and the Indian side and have someone else officiate.. That shows how seriously ICC considers these ratings. When was anyone removed from the elite panel for poor performance?
 

honestbharani

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Who says he's the first, the tenth or the five hundredth? The question is whether he should have said it.

If Ponting made the same comment in India the effigies would be out.
well, I, for one, don't find it wrong to criticize them for wrong decisions. Obviously the way Dhoni worded it was pretty poor, but the message he intended to convey (or so we assume) was not wrong at all, AFAIC..
 

abmk

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ok, so we have a situation when a player KNOWS he has not edged the ball on the way to the keeper but is given out, and the replays are inconclusive.. Generally a player knows the best reg. these edges but due to pictures not being great (and trust me, we have even seen run outs given by 3rd umpire on the benefit of the doubt, it looks out but can't give it out based on that evidence sorta deal)... How is that the right decision and that will end up costing a review too... How will the player know how well the camera has caught the pictures? And what if there was no hot spot as it is "expensive"???
IMO, the team taking the review should not be penalized if there is doubt and it goes as umpire's decision in the end. But then you don't expect ICC to think of anything sensible like that !
 

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