Auction draft

[pskov]

Marc, mucho thanks for running the draft it's been very interesting indeed to take part in. As I said earlier I would like to run the next one, but on a more open basis. I'll wait until this one has ended and settled down first though before doing anything.

 

[pskov]

Shrewsbury
Butcher
Abbas
Kallis
Yousuf
?
Ames+
Hadlee
Streak
Croft
?

I know it's a big what if, and I do have a decent amount of cash left because I took those two players cheaply, but if only I had got someone other than Butcher and Streak in those rounds I think I would have a really exceptional team.

 

[G.I.Joe]

I'd also be interested in any feedback about the draft, obviously it's a new concept and has had a few teething problems - personally the presence of muppets in the draft has been a shame, but as I didn't specify any rules then I can't really complain!

TBH, I'd have withdrawn if muppets were disallowed. They act as checks for those who place ridiculously low bids (obviously would have worked a lot better if everyone sent in their bids on time consistently), and keep their bids honest. There's no point if there's no disincentive for placing a $1 bid every round.

 

[pskov]

TBH, I'd have withdrawn if muppets were disallowed. They act as checks for those who place ridiculously low bids (obviously would have worked a lot better if everyone sent in their bids on time consistently), and keep their bids honest. There's no point if there's no disincentive for placing a $1 bid every round.

I agree with this actually. IMHO the only reason SS has such a good team after blowing so much of his budget on one or two players is because every round has had two or three no-shows allowing him to pick up good players for next to nothing. Which is fair play to SS for realising that would be the case, but still I think people not submitting has been more of a problem than some average players getting nominated.

 

[silentstriker]

Merchant.....$11

 

[silentstriker]

I agree with this actually. IMHO the only reason SS has such a good team after blowing so much of his budget on one or two players is because every round has had two or three no-shows allowing him to pick up good players for next to nothing. Which is fair play to SS for realising that would be the case, but still I think people not submitting has been more of a problem than some average players getting nominated.

It's about having a plan from the very beginning. Having five or six players identified who you would go after, and then trying to find decent players to fill around.

 

[silentstriker]

1. Vijay Merchant
2. Len Hutton
3. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
4. Richie Richardson
5. ?
6. ?
7. Adam Gilchrist
8. Keith Miller
9. Darren Gough
10. Lance Gibbs
11. Glenn McGrath

I'm going in with five bowlers, so I need one more...hmmm.

 

[silentstriker]

I'd also be interested in any feedback about the draft, obviously it's a new concept and has had a few teething problems - personally the presence of muppets in the draft has been a shame, but as I didn't specify any rules then I can't really complain!

I didn't like the muppets at all, and the people who nominated them are the ones who got stuck with them. They were designed for people like me who blow out their budgets and get stuck with them, and even though I have slightly more sense about when to bid high vs. low than people apparently gave me credit for, I don't think it's that fun.

I mean if you get Mohammad Sami after trying, it kind of just puts a sour taste in your mouth IMO. There shouldn't be nominations next time - CW ranked the top 25 bowlers and top 25 batsman - all of them should automatically be included. There'll be plenty to differentiate the sides consisting of only top players. This just makes it weird.

I'd definitely be up for it again, but with no muppets. I'd be cool with another Auction draft - maybe this one would have only seven or eight people and we'd use 'active' Test players only to establish the best Test XI....

 

[Himannv]

Got exactly who I wanted that round, he was my nomination. Probably the one of the best batsman ever produced by New Zealand. Stewie Dempster!! Got him at a bargain price at that..

@pskov, I'll be sure to join the next one.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Nah, muppets mean you're forced to think about how low you're willing to bid too, rather than just how high. There's little challenge if you're selecting from amongst only the best of players, and are guaranteed a good player come what may. Where's the fun and challenge if you're guaranteed a good bite with a $1 bait every single time? The fear of failure shouldn't be underestimated.

 

[pskov]

I didn't like the muppets at all, and the people who nominated them are the ones who got stuck with them. They were designed for people like me who blow out their budgets and get stuck with them, and even though I have slightly more sense about when to bid high vs. low than people apparently gave me credit for, I don't think it's that fun.

I mean if you get Mohammad Sami after trying, it kind of just puts a sour taste in your mouth IMO. There shouldn't be nominations next time - CW ranked the top 25 bowlers and top 25 batsman - all of them should automatically be included. There'll be plenty to differentiate the sides consisting of only top players. This just makes it weird.

I'd definitely be up for it again, but with no muppets. I'd be cool with another Auction draft - maybe this one would have only seven or eight people and we'd use 'active' Test players only to establish the best Test XI....

My idea was for a free auction over fewer rounds where you can get more than one player per round and you don't have to nominate anyone - every test player in history is up for grabs from the start.

 

[silentstriker]

I wonder how much money people have left.....this is a good round - Ambrose, Imran, Warne, Barnes, Lohmann!

 

[G.I.Joe]

I'd go for something like open bids being placed on x number of players simultaneously, with the auction on any player being declared closed if there are no further bids placed on him for say, 24 hours?

 

[G.I.Joe]

Although I'd much rather prefer the same format as this one tbh. Its a quality format in the absence of no-shows.

 

[Pothas]

Yeah this format has worked really well, just as you say would be better if everyone always made a bid but that is probably unrealistic.

Couple of classic stonewallers oppening the batting and another one in the middle order, is certainly going to be hard to dismiss, lucky I have got Ponting and Walters or this side would take 7765 days to get any runs.

1. Bill Lawry
2. Geoff Boycott
3. Ricky Ponting
4. ?
5. Ken Barrington
6. Doug Walters
7. Jeff Dujon
8. Alan Davidson
9. ?
10. Bill O'Reilly
11. Angus Fraser

 

[Himannv]

Good mix of nationalities and top 5 all average above 50. 2 more to go.

1. V Sehwag
2. S Dempster
3. W Hammond
4. G Pollock
5. G Chappell
6.
7. J Russell
8.
9. H Larwood
10. W Hall
11. M Muralitharan

 

[Jarquis]

Yes, a bit of a shame to get this far then duck out - still 13 are in though.

Yeah, is true. Am going to enjoy seeing these last two rounds though.

 

[marc71178]

There shouldn't be nominations next time - CW ranked the top 25 bowlers and top 25 batsman - all of them should automatically be included. There'll be plenty to differentiate the sides consisting of only top players. This just makes it weird.

Yeah, I introduced nominations because it would've been too much work for me to produce the lists for each round as well as the rest - I wouldn't have included any muppets though.

I'd definitely be up for it again, but with no muppets. I'd be cool with another Auction draft - maybe this one would have only seven or eight people and we'd use 'active' Test players only to establish the best Test XI....

I'll give it a while before starting another one, but have a few ideas (obviously an ODI and maybe even a T20 one, then there's current players etc.)

Think the best way to get rid of the real muppets would be to apply some sort of minimum criteria for nominations?

 

[silentstriker]

Bleh, let's keep it to Test cricket!

 

[silentstriker]

If I somehow manage to get Imran Khan or Curtly Ambrose, how awesome would it be?

Imran Khan + Keith Miller in the same team = you all lose automatically TBH.