Vaughan resigns as England captain... so does Collingwood

[Prince EWS]

Why doesn't Collingwood want to take the role? I mean, he is more than capable, isn't he?

I'd say he wants to focus on cementing his spot as a batsman. Hundred aside, there's still a bit of doubt around his overall place.

 

[Goughy]

He evidently seems to think the ODI captaincy has affected his Test form. Who knows - not completely impossible that it has.

Either way, I think it's safe to say it'll be one captain in both game-forms.

TBH, I think is more to do with having the Test guy as also the same guy that captains in the Stanford multi-millions games, rather than ODIs.

I wondered how they would deal with Vaughan being Test captain (the premier role in English cricket) and not being part of the big money pay out. Almost as if Test captain was secondary to T20.

This is an easy fix.

I reckon a lot has gone on behind the scences for this to happen.

 

[grecian]

With Colly there's also the small matter of that incident against the Kiwis, personally I'd of never had him captain us again. Went against the bone.

It's not as if England have been stellar in ODIs since he took over. Not his fault actually, just we're crap at it, but still...

 

[BoyBrumby]

Felt for Mick in the conference. Poor bloke nearly went a couple of times. Handled himslef with candour & dignity tho.

I'm now happy inasmuch as I'm sure he's gone of his own volition rather than being leant on too. Thanks for the memories, Michael.

 

[Speersy]

I hope this conference is on youtube, link anyone?

 

[Richard]

I hope this conference is on youtube, link anyone?

Not yet I shouldn't think, but will be surprised if it's not before too long.

 

[Richard]

TBH, I think is more to do with having the Test guy as also the same guy that captains in the Stanford multi-millions games, rather than ODIs.

I wondered how they would deal with Vaughan being Test captain (the premier role in English cricket) and not being part of the big money pay out. Almost as if Test captain was secondary to T20.

This is an easy fix.

I reckon a lot has gone on behind the scences for this to happen.

Hmm. I seriously hope not but I'm not going to be foolish enough to rule the thing out.

Did you watch the conference?

 

[cover drive man]

Wonder how the papers are going to twist vaughans words?

 

[Perm]

Kp (y)

 

[Goughy]

Did you watch the conference?

I did not

 

[cover drive man]

Kp (y)

Dissagree, why do you think that?

 

[masterblaster]

Felt for Mick in the conference. Poor bloke nearly went a couple of times. Handled himslef with candour & dignity tho.

I'm now happy inasmuch as I'm sure he's gone of his own volition rather than being leant on too. Thanks for the memories, Michael.

Agreed entirely. Michael Vaughan is a class act and a fine ambassador for English Cricket. Disappointed to see him go, and would hate to see a mug like KP replace him. He has said that he will play on so here's hoping he regains his touch as a batsman.

 

[Spinksy]

Kp (y)

How so, what makes him a great captain in your eyes?

 

[nightprowler10]

Not sure about giving KP the captaincy, but I suppose Strauss is no longer a viable option after a couple of disasters he had. Still, averaged something like 55 as captain.

 

[Richard]

I did not

I see. One thing that makes me doubt that is Vaughan's words about his family - and he was very, very emotional whenever he spoke about them (and this was at least 2 occasions about 5-10 minutes apart) in a way, as I said, that he wasn't at any other time. I just don't think that sort of thing could be acted unless you were Hank Marvin or Tom Hanks.

 

[masterblaster]

Nobody is mentioning Ian Bell?

He's a fixture in both tests and ODI's and seems like a smart, thinking cricketer.

English fans help me out, not a very good tactician or simply not captaincy material?

 

[fredfertang]

The return of the selectorial knee jerk reaction that served so badly in the late 80's/90's

I predict a disaster

It seems no lessons have been learned from Duncan Fletcher - sadly his legacy will be a twisted and bitter volume of autobiography and not the introduction of a sensible structure to the selection of international cricketers in England

 

[Richard]

Nobody is mentioning Ian Bell?

He's a fixture in both tests and ODI's and seems like a smart, thinking cricketer.

English fans help me out, not a very good tactician or simply not captaincy material?

I guess too many people think he's just too timid.

Faulty first impressions tend to stick.

 

[cover drive man]

I see. One thing that makes me doubt that is Vaughan's words about his family - and he was very, very emotional whenever he spoke about them (and this was at least 2 occasions about 5-10 minutes apart) in a way, as I said, that he wasn't at any other time. I just don't think that sort of thing could be acted unless you were Hank Marvin or Tom Hanks.

Of course it would be emotional and maybe there's some aspects with his life we don't need to know about.

 

[Prince EWS]

Nobody is mentioning Ian Bell?

He's a fixture in both tests and ODI's and seems like a smart, thinking cricketer.

English fans help me out, not a very good tactician or simply not captaincy material?

Well he's not known for his mental strength as a cricketer by any stretch of the imagination.

I imagine he'd be fine tactically, but I have severe doubts over whether he'd cope with the pressure of it all whether he could minimise the effect it'd have on his batting.