Simon Jones or James Anderson?

[Jakester1288]

I'd say Simon Jones when he's fit.

 

[paddy11]

You have to go for Jimmy when the ball is swinging, he can be unplayable. Otherwise Simon Jones gives you an option with the old ball with his reverse swing. So I would play him in seamer-unfriendly conditions.

 

[Jakester1288]

You have to go for Jimmy when the ball is swinging, he can be unplayable. Otherwise Simon Jones gives you an option with the old ball with his reverse swing. So I would play him in seamer-unfriendly conditions.

But only with the occasional freak ball. Simon Jones is more connsistant, which is much more important test match conditions.

 

[paddy11]

But only with the occasional freak ball. Simon Jones is more connsistant, which is much more important test match conditions.

Freak balls get set batsman out, which is important. And although Jones' actual bowling is more consistent, he is a liability when it come to injuries.

 

[Richard]

You have to go for Jimmy when the ball is swinging, he can be unplayable.

And that doesn't apply to Jones either?!

 

[Richard]

But only with the occasional freak ball. Simon Jones is more connsistant, which is much more important test match conditions.

I don't know that he's more consistent, not in terms of accuracy and keeping the run-rate down - both Jones and Anderson are generally fairly wayward. The difference is, there have seemed to date to be far more circumstances under which Jones can produce the wicket-taking deliveries than Anderson can.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

And that doesn't apply to Jones either?!

My thoughts. Jones' most marketable skill is swinging the ball. Not just reverse either.

 

[Top_Cat]

a) he got 1 wicket, well done to him for that
b) it was an ODI
c) it was in seamer friendly conditions(as ive mentioned above he cant trouble batsmen unless he plays in seamer friendly conditions.

That 1/12 was during a stinking hot day in Adelaide. It was about as seamer UNfriendly as you can get. Sure he did the majority of his bowling at night but I promise you, as someone who was there, there wasn't a cloud in the sky all bloody day and all night. I remember the ground temp was in the high 40's most of it (possibly 51 degrees at one point?).

 

[Manee]

My thoughts. Jones' most marketable skill is swinging the ball. Not just reverse either.

Yes, he has the rare ability to shape the ball conventionally in to the right hander, late.

 

[Top_Cat]

Yes, he has the rare ability to shape the ball conventionally in to the right hander, late.

Not to mention zip it away. It's what makes him so damaging when he gets it right; he gets that great movement and lift.

 

[Richard]

That 1/12 was during a stinking hot day in Adelaide. It was about as seamer UNfriendly as you can get. Sure he did the majority of his bowling at night but I promise you, as someone who was there, there wasn't a cloud in the sky all bloody day and all night. I remember the ground temp was in the high 40's most of it (possibly 51 degrees at one point?).

Just to point-out - you might have noticed - but that post is 3 years old.

 

[Richard]

Not to mention zip it away. It's what makes him so damaging when he gets it right; he gets that great movement and lift.

Jones is one of those truly remarkable cases - has the ability to get both new ball and old to swing both out and in, to order. Only Wasim Akram has ever been able to do that before.

It'll certainly be interesting if he's managed to regain fitness, which it looks far more like right now than it has for 2 years.

 

[The Masterplan]

..Taking into account this was posted in 2004... I'd love to see Simon Jones force his way back into the England setup now he's bowling well for Worcestershire, along side Jimmy in the team.. these two with either Broad or Sidebottom would make a formidable pace attack

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Sidebottom >>> Broad. Why would it be Sidebottom or Broad?

 

[Prince EWS]

Sidebottom >>> Broad. Why would it be Sidebottom or Broad?

Sidebottom >> Jones and Anderson as well. Strange call really.

 

[LongHopCassidy]

If Jones hits full form within a couple years, that could be inverted very easily.

 

[sanga1337]

jones, easily

 

[Spinksy]

James Anderson is a better player at the moment, but when Simon Jones is fit and ready to go, he really is a force to be reckoned with. It's hard to make a decision when against the New Zelanders, James Anderson is taking figures of 6/42 or something along those lines. It will be quite interesting to see them in action when they are both fully fit and in excellent form. Wasn't Simon Jones the guy that ripped through the Australians in the 2005 Ashes series?

 

[The Masterplan]

Indeed...

 

[Richard]

Wasn't Simon Jones the guy that ripped through the Australians in the 2005 Ashes series?

Well, he was one of two, Flintoff being the other.