**Official** New Zealand in England

[jammay123]

oram seems to have broken down again

 

[Richard]

WoW, I don't believe that. Pietersen caught by McCullum... but no-one appeals except a half-hearted shout from O'Brien.

Wasn't convinced that Vettori one was undoubtedly out-able yesterday, but that was. What an astonishing let-off, even by Pietersen's standards.

 

[Days of Grace]

So, Pietersen begins his third innings...

 

[Richard]

Bell off-the-mark this morn.

So far this game, Hair has decisively out-Umpired Taufel. That's two really big errors from the Si-man.

 

[Richard]

Bloody hell, turn and bounce here. As Ath says, reminiscent of that extraordinary ball from MSP against WI last year. That's seamer-style bounce from a full-ish ball from a spinner.

Think that inability yesterday to run through the lower-order might just cost very dearly indeed if this match doesn't get cut short by rain. NZ are in a very, very nice position indeed in this match.

 

[social]

WoW, I don't believe that. Pietersen caught by McCullum... but no-one appeals except a half-hearted shout from O'Brien.

Wasn't convinced that Vettori one was undoubtedly out-able yesterday, but that was. What an astonishing let-off, even by Pietersen's standards.

2 - 1

 

[chalky]

New Zealand carrying from where left off yesterday really bowling well & building up pressure - you feel something has got to give very shortly.

 

[Pratters]

Very good decision by Taufel there.

 

[Richard]

New Zealand carrying from where left off yesterday really bowling well & building up pressure - you feel something has got to give very shortly.

Something already has - they just didn't appeal for it!

 

[Manee]

WoW, I don't believe that. Pietersen caught by McCullum... but no-one appeals except a half-hearted shout from O'Brien.

If no one on the pitch thinks it is out, the umpire is less likely to think so, so it is not a hypothetically lost opportunity.

 

[sideshowtim]

Something already has - they just didn't appeal for it!

O'Brien appealed, one player appealing is still an appeal so some good umpiring would've been the finger raised there. New Zealand very unlucky there.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

WoW, I don't believe that. Pietersen caught by McCullum... but no-one appeals except a half-hearted shout from O'Brien.

Wasn't convinced that Vettori one was undoubtedly out-able yesterday, but that was. What an astonishing let-off, even by Pietersen's standards.

I remember when South Africa toured West Indies in 2001. Pollock (or Kallis, I forget) got the edge of Jacobs' bat when he approaching a ton. It was a pretty loud and healthy edge and Jacobs turned as though about to walk off. He then looked sheepishly back down the pitch to see absolutely no one appealing. He just slowly walked back into his stance and continued. He scored 113 not out. There's a West Indies anecdote for ya.

 

[chalky]

Something already has - they just didn't appeal for it!

Was thinking more of a few boundries or a rash shot caused by the pressure build up.

 

[sideshowtim]

If no one on the pitch thinks it is out, the umpire is less likely to think so, so it is not a hypothetically lost opportunity.

Doesn't matter. A good umpire won't be swayed by the stature, either large or small of an appeal and will be able to make the correct decision regardless of how loud or quiet it is.

 

[Manee]

I have no prior opinions of him, but O'Brian looks quite good. His only real issue is the lack of any sort of pace.

 

[Manee]

Doesn't matter. A good umpire won't be swayed by the stature, either large or small of an appeal and will be able to make the correct decision regardless of how loud or quiet it is.

I know that. But if a team does not think that it is out, then an umpire who shares the some field (see's the same thing, hears the same thing) would not be likely to think it out either.

 

[Richard]

Doesn't matter. A good umpire won't be swayed by the stature, either large or small of an appeal and will be able to make the correct decision regardless of how loud or quiet it is.

WoW, sst criticising an Australian.

Only ever seen a not-convicing appeal answered in the affirmative - and that was off my own bowling. Never seen it at a serious level. I struck a batsman on the pad, turned and said "ow isat?" without anyone saying a thing (rather than my usual "oooooowwwwwwwwwwwiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzaaaattttttt??????????" with support from wicketkeeper, slips et al) and the Umpire raised his finger. I did think it was out, but far less so than many of my lbws (including some that've been turned-down).

Right, Pietersen finally gone - not before time, truth to be told. Can't say that's a surprise. Amazing lack of fanfare, mind.

 

[_Ed_]

Pietersen gone!

 

[Pratters]

KP gone. England's top order has failed it again. England struggling atm.

 

[jammay123]

KP gone. england are in big trouble