Intercontinental Cup, 2007

[andruid]

Both the Netherlands and the Scots closing in on victory...

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Both the Netherlands and the Scots closing in on victory...

Dutch have won already, apparently. 64 runs.

So table is...

Namibia 68/5
Kenya 66/4
Netherlands 50/5
Ireland 49/3
Scotland 46/4
UAE 29
Canada 26/4
Bermuda 6/4

Intriguing. Looks like Ireland will have to win in Windhoek in October if they want to reach the final though.

 

[andruid]

Dutch have won already, apparently. 64 runs.

So table is...

Namibia 68/5
Kenya 66/4
Netherlands 50/5
Ireland 49/3
Scotland 46/4
UAE 29
Canada 26/4
Bermuda 6/4

Intriguing. Looks like Ireland will have to win in Windhoek in October if they want to reach the final though.

OMG this league table ideas is just pure genius

Kenya's next assignments are against Scotland, The Netherlands, before they finish off at home to Ireland.
Namibia still have Bermuda and Ireland to play.
Irlean are yet to face Namibia, Kenya or The Dutch.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Apparently Namibia aren't entirely out of it. 22 to win with a wicket in hand.

 

[andruid]

Apparently Namibia aren't entirely out of it. 22 to win with a wicket in hand.

I wish that match were being broadcast live somewhere. all he drama and we are missing out

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Eight to win. Namibia have added 39 for the final wicket already.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Namibia win! What a last stand!

So I correct...

Namibia 82/5
Kenya 66/4
Netherlands 50/5
Ireland 49/3
Scotland 30/4
UAE 29
Canada 26/4
Bermuda 6/4

Scotland out of it. Ireland need a good summer to make the final.

 

[andruid]

Namibia win! What a last stand!

So I correct...

Namibia 82/5
Kenya 66/4
Netherlands 50/5
Ireland 49/3
Scotland 30/4
UAE 29
Canada 26/4
Bermuda 6/4

Scotland out of it. Ireland need a good summer to make the final.

Kenya's European tour this summer is looking more tantalising as is Ireland's tour of Africa that follows after. Somebody please open an official tour thread for both if I cannot be here to do it

 

[chaminda_00]

Man it is crazy how much Namibia have improved since they have been playing in the South African domestic leagues. With Bermuda and Ireland still to play. even if they lose to Ireland they are pretty much through to the final.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

even if they lose to Ireland they are pretty much through to the final.

Nah, depends on Ireland cacking up a bit or rain in Rotterdam. If Ireland score full points from Netherlands and Canada (the last, at least, should be easy) they'll have 89; Namibia go up to 102 once they pummel Bermuda, so with a first-innings win Ireland will take 109. If Ireland don't take full points from Netherlands they have another chance against Kenya later on their African tour.

Kenya getting more points than those 102 will be trickier, though. They'll probably need to beat Netherlands, can't see them getting up in Scotland.

 

[chaminda_00]

Nah, depends on Ireland cacking up a bit or rain in Rotterdam. If Ireland score full points from Netherlands and Canada (the last, at least, should be easy) they'll have 89; Namibia go up to 102 once they pummel Bermuda, so with a first-innings win Ireland will take 109. If Ireland don't take full points from Netherlands they have another chance against Kenya later on their African tour.

Kenya getting more points than those 102 will be trickier, though. They'll probably need to beat Netherlands, can't see them getting up in Scotland.

Ireland are in the box seat to take the 2nd spot or even 1st spot. But I think Kenya have a up hill battle to jump ahead of Namibia. They will probably have to rely on beating Ireland and coming 2nd. Ireland/Kenya final isn't out of the question yet, but Namibia have one foot in the final really.

 

[andruid]

Nah, depends on Ireland cacking up a bit or rain in Rotterdam. If Ireland score full points from Netherlands and Canada (the last, at least, should be easy) they'll have 89; Namibia go up to 102 once they pummel Bermuda, so with a first-innings win Ireland will take 109. If Ireland don't take full points from Netherlands they have another chance against Kenya later on their African tour.

Kenya getting more points than those 102 will be trickier, though. They'll probably need to beat Netherlands, can't see them getting up in Scotland.

I honestly think from their performance in Windhoek, Scotland shouldn't count themeslves obvious favourites against Kenya. Scotland have yet to face a truly full strength Kenya team in the Intercontinental Cup and their ODI head-to-head record still reads 3-1 to Kenya.

Its the weather in Ayr that worries me though.

 

[Goughy]

Man it is crazy how much Namibia have improved since they have been playing in the South African domestic leagues..

They could be even better if they had a good Administration and took advantage of Namibian born South Africans to bolster depth.

I know a couple of very good Namibian born Saffies (equiv 1st grade) that contacted Namibian Cricket Association and never heard back. They also cant be the only ones.

 

[Pup Clarke]

Ffs

 

[chaminda_00]

They could be even better if they had a good Administration and took advantage of Namibian born South Africans to bolster depth.

I know a couple of very good Namibian born Saffies (equiv 1st grade) that contacted Namibian Cricket Association and never heard back. They also cant be the only ones.

Short term yeah it is a good move and maybe something to consider when World Cup qualifications are around. But long term if you can't develop your own talent then you will never get anywhere. They have already jumped ahead of Kenya at youth level so they probably not doing too bad developing talent. There is steady flow of youngsters coming into the side as well.

Administration is tough one, as not many Emerging nations have great admin due to lack of funds.

 

[andruid]

Short term yeah it is a good move and maybe something to consider when World Cup qualifications are around. But long term if you can't develop your own talent then you will never get anywhere. They have already jumped ahead of Kenya at youth level so they probably not doing too bad developing talent. There is steady flow of youngsters coming into the side as well.

Administration is tough one, as not many Emerging nations have great admin due to lack of funds.

I know, and Kenya has only itself to blame for allowing all manner of politics to divide the administration. A good administration is of vital importance to make full use of whatever player resources.

 

[chaminda_00]

I know, and Kenya has only itself to blame for allowing all manner of politics to divide the administration. A good administration is of vital importance to make full use of whatever player resources.

The thing is that Namibia's adminstration is as poorly run as Kenya's. So I don't see how it makes much of a difference. The big difference ATM is that Namibia get a helping hand developing players through their links in South Africa. But I can't see Namibia relying on South Africa forever to improve their players.

Both Kenya and Namibia need to improve their domestic struture to continue the stream of decent players. There already a pretty big gap in Namibia between the guys that have played FC cricket in South Africa with the NT squad and the guys left at home. Thats probably where Kenyan domestic might help them jump ahead again.

 

[andruid]

The thing is that Namibia's adminstration is as poorly run as Kenya's. So I don't see how it makes much of a difference. The big difference ATM is that Namibia get a helping hand developing players through their links in South Africa. But I can't see Namibia relying on South Africa forever to improve their players.

Both Kenya and Namibia need to improve their domestic struture to continue the stream of decent players. There already a pretty big gap in Namibia between the guys that have played FC cricket in South Africa with the NT squad and the guys left at home. Thats probably where Kenyan domestic might help them jump ahead again.

Well there was a time between the two World Cups of 2003 ans 2007 when all cricket activities had pretty much ground to a halt because the various provincial boards and the players and everybody was at war and amongst others things Kenya's u19's suffered form lack of activity and then the trauma of being thrown into the deep end when the senior players strike was at it height. Its with the return of stability that things are moving forward again. With Kenya there is still the issue of getting enough talent to make the transition from schools to club cricket and then fro club cricket to International level cricket. At least with better management these issues are being addressed. Hopefully with Namibia some kind of competitive domestic competion can be developed to make better use of the kids playing cricket back home.

 

[chaminda_00]

Well there was a time between the two World Cups of 2003 ans 2007 when all cricket activities had pretty much ground to a halt because the various provincial boards and the players and everybody was at war and amongst others things Kenya's u19's suffered form lack of activity and then the trauma of being thrown into the deep end when the senior players strike was at it height. Its with the return of stability that things are moving forward again. With Kenya there is still the issue of getting enough talent to make the transition from schools to club cricket and then fro club cricket to International level cricket. At least with better management these issues are being addressed. Hopefully with Namibia some kind of competitive domestic competion can be developed to make better use of the kids playing cricket back home.

The same thing pretty much happened to Namibia after the 2003 World Cup, they basically went no where in 2-4 years. I think Uganada actually made the Youth World Cup ahead of both or atleast made the final of the quailfiers.

 

[Kweek]

not to mention the amount of australians with dutch passports who are not playing for Holland
Nannes and Bollinger are both dutch...how awesome would Hollands bowling be!

not to forget the guy in Jack's under 19 team mate for Australia who also holds a dutch passport...


edit: Tom Cooper